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From MG <mg...@arscreat.com>
Subject Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback
Date Wed, 14 Feb 2018 21:40:26 GMT
PS: The process by which Groovy honors shall be bestowed is another 
point that needs imho to be carefully considered, otherwise e.g. someone 
with 50+ Facebook friends can easily swing any vote (I have seen this 
happen before).


On 14.02.2018 12:23, Cédric Champeau wrote:
>
>     Or for something with a bit more pep "Groovy Vanguard Developer /
>     Contributor 2018" or "Groovy Crack 2018".
>
>     Contrary to Java Champions, I would suggest tying it to a specific
>     year:
>
>
> I like the idea of having it associated with a year, but it doesn't 
> have to. Explanation below.
>
>     That way people who no longer are Groovy contributors do not carry
>     the title forever (the Russian guy who is now working on Kotlin
>     comes to mind)
>
>
> His name is Alex Tkachman, and while he's not involved in the language 
> anymore, he's still one of the biggest contributors to Groovy. Most of 
> the performance improvements in the "legacy" (non indy) dynamic 
> runtime of Groovy were from him and still active. He was also source 
> of inspiration for the static compiler (Groovy++). I think he deserves 
> the title more than lots of us. And I think we shouldn't go into the 
> "he's gone to competition" route. Languages evolve, Kotlin is a very 
> nice language, that took inspiration from us as well as others, and we 
> have lots of things to learn from it too.
>
>     , and on the other hand some people could get the title several
>     years in a row, as a sign of continued gratitude.
>
>
> If they do, they would be good candidates for the PMC.
>
>     Cheers,
>     mg
>
>
>
>     On 13.02.2018 14:13, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>     +1 on the name!
>>
>>     I think it's cool to differentiate the Groovy award from other
>>     awards like Java Rock-stars and Java Champions, Grails
>>     Rock-stars, and more!
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 at 14:09 Guillaume Laforge
>>     <glaforge@gmail.com <mailto:glaforge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         It's funny, I think we didn't think about "stars" in our
>>         previous conversations, and I must say I quite like it, and
>>         it makes sense considering our logo :-D
>>
>>         On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Jennifer Strater
>>         <jenn.strater@gmail.com <mailto:jenn.strater@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             +1 for the proposal and +1 for "Groovy Stars"
>>
>>             On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Paul King
>>             <paulk@asert.com.au <mailto:paulk@asert.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>                 I don't mind "Groovy Stars" as a name!
>>
>>                 Of course it begs the question "Star trek" or "Star
>>                 Wars" - the long journey
>>                 of programming language design vs the language wars! :-)
>>
>>
>>                 On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Dierk König
>>                 <dierk.koenig@canoo.com
>>                 <mailto:dierk.koenig@canoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     I’m all for honoring contributions to the
>>                     language/ecosystem/community.
>>                     Given our logo, „Groovy Star“ comes to mind :-)
>>
>>                     Cheers
>>                     Dierk
>>
>>                     sent from:mobile
>>
>>                     Am 13.02.2018 um 12:29 schrieb Paolo Di Tommaso
>>                     <paolo.ditommaso@gmail.com
>>                     <mailto:paolo.ditommaso@gmail.com>>:
>>
>>>                     It sound a nice idea also to promote the
>>>                     visibility of the groovy community.
>>>
>>>
>>>                     p
>>>
>>>                     On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Søren Berg
>>>                     Glasius <soeren@glasius.dk
>>>                     <mailto:soeren@glasius.dk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                         I'm definitely +1
>>>
>>>                         It is always important to recognize and
>>>                         encourage the ones making a difference to
>>>                         the community.
>>>
>>>                         On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 at 11:32 Schalk Cronjé
>>>                         <ysb33r@gmail.com <mailto:ysb33r@gmail.com>>
>>>                         wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                             That's a +1 from me for the concep.
>>>
>>>
>>>                             On 13/02/2018 10:58, Paul King wrote:
>>>                             >
>>>                             > Hi everyone,
>>>                             >
>>>                             > A few of us have had various
>>>                             discussions (in fact over many years)
>>>                             > about having a recognition scheme
>>>                             similar to Java Champions,
>>>                             > perhaps called "Groovy Champions" or
>>>                             "Apache Groovy Champions"
>>>                             > or something else entirely if we think
>>>                             of a better name.
>>>                             >
>>>                             > I think the idea has always been to
>>>                             recognize contribution within the
>>>                             > whole Groovy ecosystem not just the
>>>                             Apache Groovy project. The many
>>>                             > tens of projects within the ecosystem
>>>                             are often where many ideas come
>>>                             > from for the project's future
>>>                             evolution and also where future contributors
>>>                             > may arise. And in any case, Groovy has
>>>                             always been about making
>>>                             > coding productive and fun and we
>>>                             should celebrate that widely!
>>>                             >
>>>                             > There are various questions to ask
>>>                             like should such a scheme
>>>                             > be formally coordinated by the
>>>                             project/by Apache or should it be run as a
>>>                             > community-driven unsanctioned activity
>>>                             and if so what guidelines should
>>>                             > be in place. Also, there are many
>>>                             details like how will the scheme
>>>                             > operate?
>>>                             > How are new members elected? Is it a
>>>                             lifetime recognition or is there
>>>                             > an "emeritus" status? And so forth.
>>>                             Java Champions vote themselves
>>>                             > on new champions and the recognition
>>>                             has a lifetime status for instance.
>>>                             > if we progress this idea, we'd need to
>>>                             make that all clear but that isn't
>>>                             > the purpose of this email - we need to
>>>                             first decide if we like the idea.
>>>                             >
>>>                             > Even if we like the idea, there are
>>>                             still some hurdles to step through.
>>>                             > We've already sought some informal
>>>                             feedback from other parts of
>>>                             > Apache and other projects within the
>>>                             Groovy Ecosystem and we'll
>>>                             > likely need further discussions. We
>>>                             want something that embraces
>>>                             > the whole community but fits in with
>>>                             Apache project governance
>>>                             > around trademarks/branding.
>>>                             >
>>>                             > So, the first question is: are we as a
>>>                             project in favor of such a scheme?
>>>                             >
>>>                             > Cheers, Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>                             --
>>>                             Schalk W. Cronjé
>>>                             Twitter / Ello / Toeter : @ysb33r
>>>
>>>                         -- 
>>>                         Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>                         Søren Berg Glasius
>>>
>>>                         Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Guillaume Laforge
>>         Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>         Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>
>>         Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>>         <http://glaforge.appspot.com/>
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>>         <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>     Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>>     Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>     Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <tel:+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype:
>>     sbglasius
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