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Cheers, Paul. On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Dinko Srko=C4=8D w= rote: > On 8 June 2017 at 13:34, Russel Winder wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 13:18 +0200, Dinko Srko=C4=8D wrote: > >> On 8 June 2017 at 13:09, Russel Winder wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 14:38 +0000, S=C3=B8ren Berg Glasius wrote: > >> > > I think it makes perfect sense that you can do the same > >> > > calculations > >> > > with > >> > > java.time.* as you can with java.util.Date > >> > > > >> > > >> > Shouldn't it be fair to assume that all new code eschews > >> > java.util.Date > >> > and all the Calendar stuff, and uses java.time for everything time > >> > and > >> > date related? > >> > >> I think this falls into a category of "hope" or "wish", rather than > >> "assumption" :-) > > > > True, but I was hoping that unlike a large percentage of Java > > developers who are hugely reluctant to learn anything new they do not > > already know (*), Groovy developers were very much into using the best > > new idiomatic ways of doing things (well except for stuff that is just > > fashionably trendy for a few days) and keeping their codebases up to > > date with up-to-date Groovy. > > > > Please do not shatter my illusions. > > haha! > > Okay, I could convince myself that it is indeed so with Groovy developers= . > :-) > > > > > > > > > (*) And are thus part of the legacy problem. > > > > -- > > Russel. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: > sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net > > 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk > > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder > --001a113d143264038305517adad9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1 from me, but I'd be keen to hear Joe's thoughts= ?

Cheers, Paul.


On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:37 PM= , Dinko Srko=C4=8D <dinko.srkoc@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8 June 2017 at 13:34, Russe= l Winder <russel@winder.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 13:18 +0200, Dinko Srko=C4=8D wrote:
>> On 8 June 2017 at 13:09, Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 14:38 +0000, S=C3=B8ren Berg Glasius wr= ote:
>> > > I think it makes perfect sense that you can do the same<= br> >> > > calculations
>> > > with
>> > > java.time.* as you can with java.util.Date
>> > >
>> >
>> > Shouldn't it be fair to assume that all new code eschews<= br> >> > java.util.Date
>> > and all the Calendar stuff, and uses java.time for everything= time
>> > and
>> > date related?
>>
>> I think this falls into a category of "hope" or "wi= sh", rather than
>> "assumption" :-)
>
> True, but I was hoping that unlike a large percentage of Java
> developers who are hugely reluctant to learn anything new they do not<= br> > already know (*), Groovy developers were very much into using the best=
> new idiomatic ways of doing things (well except for stuff that is just=
> fashionably trendy for a few days) and keeping their codebases up to > date with up-to-date Groovy.
>
> Please do not shatter my illusions.

haha!

Okay, I could convince myself that it is indeed so with Groovy developers. = :-)

>
>
>
> (*) And are thus part of the legacy problem.
>
> --
> Russel.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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