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It just > means a couple of extra steps when I upgrade. First, change the > coordinates (group + version instead of just the version) and a quick > refactor of my imports. Every modern IDE makes this easy. > > > This is not much about direct dependencies, but about transitive dependencies. Exclusions in Maven are horrible. You never want to exclude a dependency. What you really want is to substitute it, so that it can belong to the dependency resolution process. --001a114032a886fd07054c01d120 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Is this not the whole = point of releasing versioned binaries?=C2=A0 It just means a couple of extr= a steps when I upgrade.=C2=A0 First, change the coordinates (group + versio= n instead of just the version) and a quick refactor of my imports.=C2=A0 Ev= ery modern IDE makes this easy.


This is not much about direct dependencies, but about = transitive dependencies. Exclusions in Maven are horrible. You never want t= o exclude a dependency. What you really want is to substitute it, so that i= t can belong to the dependency resolution process.=C2=A0
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