Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42780200B28 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:22:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 410EB160A5C; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 8851D160A28 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:22:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 11711 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jun 2016 09:22:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@groovy.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@groovy.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 11699 invoked by uid 99); 26 Jun 2016 09:22:30 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 1D9CBC0026 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:22:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.702 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx2-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aN93Hj1fB_BY for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by mx2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 87E3F5F23C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.6] ([89.12.108.202]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M9ra4-1b67uu0kcy-00B7Bv for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:22:20 +0200 Subject: Re: Integrating Groovy with a Java EE application and Maven To: users@groovy.apache.org References: <57658F26.5040909@gmail.com> <57668B83.4020307@gmx.org> <5768E6EB.3040809@gmail.com> <5769A5F1.3060907@gmx.org> <5769B435.8090401@gmail.com> <576D54C5.2090407@gmail.com> <576D9AB0.7040703@gmx.org> <576F80DF.5010408@gmail.com> From: Jochen Theodorou Message-ID: <576F9EC1.6050605@gmx.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:22:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <576F80DF.5010408@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:r2wRm2VcVhfBsKL2xx7Aj37wbdIUixm8JLAJUXwb2uzPh/EyzmV V5qZJSmqrd+FdPVo9t3SrH/pR+hex4hd/GpsJjmKtw3fKl+CFAhfgew/EAXaI05BWtXrdrn oup/w76lYdn8p7fJbSJ4ltI8SKtktHwWKji1lOcJvJBIfYFRJZRhuEBlBclOMW9eIIMrmi1 lKJObQfqu/+OzRLFw+3/w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mqVko2NKq5c=:n/iJfZiUpQIQ5/Dgntovdq EoKn7jkIIoljVScIbVlpR0doegfUpdOD7WjzhOW3C9ziJQV8GTohqIsg4sUeJWlToS44ZLrFk OFLu6Vbx8BFoSxINA/lVSdOtOjN001yHm25caOtlH5lz1oj0liTq63a485dqlIxDxkOybdzQ1 sMATfzgrE0i2i+J4Ufyu8wyfWsdbb6yodsxtm7ajUxHKgAeO3SIjWPmHz5nFP+x+XpD4Puj4g K1shx5gGRmtEbki9yvXSapR5kWSYDemX6ouZt6vS/5ZFvXRvtF6KJ8TwerU+XHZs505BXPMHk ViX+wj4TkF/MkUnlbFgRrrw8a2G7DrSFLdaQjZt4b0zdZNvBZZkB0BkLHXOdrMMVL5Pc9c5A3 kD+p1Rr8xHvHPN5Qfuuo3IdaCuMvIJ+HqIOGGE4hVmANA5ih8ZJmr4VBf2+2oR9nxhb9hQlDP PxryG6eeR0Z7c8HkU9OnqS6fYPmI8nj0sSgW+7i/tH9l+6xC9Pui9ETF6kWUV0nIOV5cBg5Y+ EVQAPiHBsgWBcDeMmipu/4mxdpxtriwAEcF61Zl60WHCLMf1R9pw0DdZcb/bv1akxpg2CyBRg 48QFyLi7Dx/VBUAbosTKZ8wSDnIUzoBAFTYn3IBz3/7B98+Xgf7ZHiYtsBqP3JmGrB2TeS5qM I7PwzqFjbSV4c1MGFBZJCXs3givC5zuNLuom+5snmM917A6Wsm88VL+LiQLsh9JM08TkXjQfv DRCLnqcUUjtkRlHTEuB8oTIaxYGGAko1v6cn8gm7myKHVQyptmUDYItbaEZq70Hj6eGHoeA0/ w6BPND8 archived-at: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:22:32 -0000 On 26.06.2016 09:14, Mr Andersson wrote: > > > On 06/24/2016 10:40 PM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: >> On 24.06.2016 17:41, Mr Andersson wrote: >> [...] >>> If you want to convince me of switching, i am still looking/waiting for >>> someone to offer cyclic dependency support between modules, since >>> without it, my code is getting more complex than need be. >> >> then you probably do not want modules, but just multiple source >> folders... because what advantages are left of modules if they are >> cyclic? > > Access rights. Even if a module/package is a cyclic, unless another > module has specifically declared that you can access it, can you access > it. It is like packages, but with access rules attached to them, which > does not exist currently. How exactly are you using that? I know only dependencies, no module level access rights, since I guess you do not talk about jdk9 jigsaw. And how do these translate to runtime? bye Jochen