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From Mr Andersson <mr.andersson....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is it possible to enable CompileStatic for an entire project
Date Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:08:50 GMT


On 06/22/2016 07:02 PM, Mr Andersson wrote:
>
>
> On 06/22/2016 03:06 PM, Alessio Stalla wrote:
>> Also good tests help. However I agree that if you prefer the 
>> tradeoffs that static languages give you then probably Groovy is not 
>> the wisest choice.
>
>
>> It's nice to have good speed in critical sections of the code without 
>> having to rewrite them in Java, but a fully static
>
>
>> Groovy IMHO is just a quirkier, slower, less supported Java with some 
>> nice syntactic sugar. It just wasn't designed for that.
> That's exactly what I need at times. To be able to use Groovy 
> alongside Java when I need to, to a minimal. Writing regexes, 
> multiline strings, inline variable strings, writing sql, use some 
> libraries on occasion, and other things that are really ugly to do in 
> Java.
>
> The static version for me would be a compliment to go the Groovy way 
> when I need to, not replace Java.
> To replace Java, I think a new Grooyv language that is written from 
> scratch, has similar syntax as Java + Groovy, and performs equally 
> would be required.
>
> Java features are so slow to be developed that I am sure if the Groovy 
> devs decided to fork the Java compiler and start adding many new 
> features it would develope so much faster.

Basically, the world is crying out for a fork of Java, that can develope 
the language faster than Oracle. Not a completely new language that runs 
on the JVM.

>
> I once saw a seminar of someone hacking the Java compiler in 20 
> minutes to add the elvis operator. Now, consider adding closures ( 
> better syntax than Java lambdas ) and removing all other cludd that 
> Java requires, and we have a hit run.
>
> Many just need to write less code
>>
>> On 22 June 2016 at 14:50, Thibault Kruse <tibokruse@googlemail.com 
>> <mailto:tibokruse@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     > People want to be able to refactor without risking of the code eventually
>>     > breaking totally, and that's the problem with Groovy. Code will
>>     eventually
>>     > become stale and stop working if it is put on layway for a
>>     while. No compile
>>     > time checks is a problem for anyone interested in code quality.
>>
>>     For that purpose, it might be sufficient to make @TypeChecked the
>>     default, or a compiler option.
>>     That would catch most such problems at compile time.
>>
>>
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