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From Owen Rubel <oru...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: About the syntax of groovy
Date Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:44:04 GMT
Ah thanks for the info :)

Owen Rubel
415-971-0976
orubel@gmail.com

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Greg Trasuk <trasukg@stratuscom.com> wrote:

>
> The code is licensed under the Apache Software License, which is
> permissive so anyone could fork it, and of course the community is free to
> move anytime it wants, but the trademarks will have been transferred to
> Apache as part of the incubation process.  They have to be, otherwise, the
> Apache Software Foundation would be unable to defend the trademarks on
> behalf of the community.
>
> That shouldn’t scare you!  The point of the foundation is to have a
> corporate entity whose whole reason for existence is to support and defend
> open source projects, and whose mission is indisputably charitable.  There
> is no chance that Apache is going to turn around and try to monetize the
> project (like Oracle attempted to do with Hudson, for instance).  Apache’s
> governance is open and public.  Groovy’s future development is in the hands
> of the new PMC, and shouldn’t be dominated by any one corporate interest
> (although corporate interests are more than welcome to contribute to the
> community and share in the products of it).
>
> The future of the Groovy name is far safer being owned by Apache than by
> anyone else.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg Trasuk
>
> > On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Owen Rubel <orubel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Whoa. Apache has ownership? I thought it was just part of the foundation
> and could leave anytime it wanted.
> >
> > Owen Rubel
> > 415-971-0976
> > orubel@gmail.com
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 10:55 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote:
> > > Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy,
> > > Pivotal
> > > Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;)
> >
> > I think the point here is that Spring, VMWare, and Pivotal only ever
> > supported the project, they didn't own the product. With the move of
> > the project to the Apache Foundation, it owns the product, lock, stock,
> > and barrel. If it says (and I believe it does) that name is Apache
> > Groovy, then it is.
> >
> > > I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :)
> >
> > I'd rather not be damned for using Groovy, Apache or otherwise.  ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Russel.
> >
> =============================================================================
> > Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200   voip:
> sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net
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> >
> >
>
>

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