From dev-return-5986-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@groovy.apache.org Sun Mar 31 20:24:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 078B418065D for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 22:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 61447 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2019 20:24:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@groovy.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@groovy.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 61434 invoked by uid 99); 31 Mar 2019 20:24:08 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 20:24:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 18828180DF0 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 20:24:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.701 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MuXDV0K3b9Hb for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx23lb.world4you.com (mx23lb.world4you.com [81.19.149.133]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 89820624ED for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.110.123.219] (helo=[192.168.1.187]) by mx23lb.world4you.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hAgzl-00083n-VU; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 22:23:58 +0200 Subject: Re: AST Transformations and joint compilation To: dev@groovy.apache.org, Jochen Theodorou References: <226c6fc3-72e3-3026-e543-ae7e2bfc30d1@gmx.org> <44bbda23-5639-fb27-432a-9b54a7e0b95a@gmx.org> From: MG Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 22:23:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44bbda23-5639-fb27-432a-9b54a7e0b95a@gmx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AV-Do-Run: Yes On 31/03/2019 19:49, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > On 31.03.19 16:56, MG wrote: > [...] >> The question then becomes: How could we achieve a more sweeping solution >> that is less evolutionary in nature ? Maybe there are more companies >> that would benefit from such an improvement, and would be willing to >> participate in getting this done ? > > It is unlikely for them to voice their opinion here though. Doesn't matter imho, as long as they can supply a developer that can help with this task part time. > >> Another related question that has been on my mind: If the Apache Groovy >> community had already decided we wanted to get something done in >> principle, and had decided on a way forward, would it be ok to help fund >> this development on Patreon after the fact ? > > if there is a defined time frame we could do this in theory. If this > works for the person that is doing this is another question. "After the fact" here refers to the decision process of the community, not the actual work being done... Cheers, mg