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From Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au>
Subject Re: [DRAFT] Proposed board report for August 2018
Date Wed, 08 Aug 2018 14:53:33 GMT
I agree with you. The numbers aren't an accurate assessment but given it is
a metric
we can measure, and one of the few, I think it provides very useful
feedback.

Cheers, Paul.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:27 AM Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk> wrote:

> I appreciate the idea of big numbers is to impress, and clearly we want to
> be
> impressive, but do we know what is meant by download here?
>
> As I see it, we have:
>
> – Groovy installer downloads
> – Gradle/Maven/etc. direct downloads of a groovy artefact from:
>         · Maven Central
>         · JCenter
> – Gradle/Maven/etc. indirect (due to transitive dependency) downloads of a
> groovy artefact from:
>         · Maven Central
>         · JCenter
>
> This still ignores everyone using SDKMAN! to download the groovy system.
> Also
> Arch, Fedora, and Debian (and thus Ubuntu and Mint) package Groovy, and
> this
> defies any form of counting for impressiveness purposes. Of course there is
> also MacPorts, HomeBrew, and indeed Chocolatey. These statistics also don't
> recognise that there are Gradle and Maven caches that are being filled and
> copied, defying all statistics.
>
> I just get the feeling that the download statistics do not actually tell us
> anything useful.
>
> But if they keep people happy, they serve a purpose.
>
> On Wed, 2018-08-08 at 14:14 +0200, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> > Looking great to me :-)
> >
> > Adding a few numbers:
> >
> > Apache Groovy was downloaded 27M+ times the past three months (May /
> June /
> > July),
> > across Maven Central and Bintray JCenter, for a total of 54M+ since the
> > beginning of the year.
> > Generally, 2/3 of the downloads are from Maven Central, vs 1/3 from
> Bintray
> > JCenter.
> > There is still a lot of users downloading the latest 2.4.x releases,
> almost
> > as much as the 2.5.x ones.
> > But it is nice to see that about 10% of the downloads are from users
> trying
> > our 3.0 alphas.
> >
> > Guillaume
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:04 PM Paul King <paulk@asert.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I haven't heard from Guillaume and our report is due today.
> > > I don't have the latest download numbers but here is all the rest of
> the
> > > info.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you have anything to add.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Paul.
> > > P.S. Guillaume, please feel free to send or I while first thing my
> > > tomorrow.
> > >
> > > ============
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Description:
> > >
> > > Apache Groovy is a multi-faceted programming language for the Java
> > > platform.
> > > Groovy is a powerful, optionally typed and dynamic language, with
> static-
> > > typing and static compilation capabilities, aimed at multiplying
> > > developers’
> > > productivity thanks to a concise, familiar and easy to learn syntax. It
> > > integrates smoothly with any Java program, and immediately delivers to
> > > your
> > > application powerful features, including scripting capabilities,
> Domain-
> > > Specific Language authoring, first class functional programming support
> > > and runtime and compile-time meta-programming.
> > >
> > > ## Issues:
> > >
> > > There are no new issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > > Outstanding issues:
> > >  - The final steps to completing the website migration are still
> > > outstanding.
> > >
> > > ## Activity:
> > >
> > >  - This quarter, 257 commits were contributed from 22 contributors
> > > including 12 non-committer contributors (12 new).
> > >
> > > ## Health report:
> > >
> > >  - Committee Health score: 10.00 (Super Healthy)
> > >  - Our release train velocity has been maintained, and there seems to
> be a
> > >    healthy level of discussion about project direction on the mailing
> > > lists.
> > >
> > > ## PMC changes:
> > >
> > >  - Currently 11 PMC members.
> > >  - Andres Almiray was added to the PMC on Thu May 31 2018
> > >
> > > ## Committer base changes:
> > >
> > >  - Currently 19 committers.
> > >  - Remko Popma was added as a committer on Sat Jul 07 2018
> > >
> > > ## Releases:
> > >
> > >  - 2.5.0 was released on Wed May 30 2018
> > >  - 2.5.0-rc-3 was released on Tue May 22 2018
> > >  - 2.5.1 was released on Fri Jul 13 2018
> > >  - 2.6.0-alpha-4 was released on Tue Jun 26 2018
> > >  - 3.0.0-alpha-3 was released on Tue Jun 26 2018
> > >
> > > ## Mailing list activity:
> > >
> > >  - Slight increase in subscribers over the period otherwise nothing to
> > > report
> > >
> > > ## JIRA activity:
> > >
> > >  - 159 JIRA tickets created in the last 3 months
> > >  - 133 JIRA tickets closed/resolved in the last 3 months
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> --
> Russel.
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>
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