From dev-return-4808-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@groovy.apache.org Sun May 20 16:28:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 37BEC180632 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 16:28:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 16732 invoked by uid 500); 20 May 2018 14:28:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@groovy.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@groovy.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 16718 invoked by uid 99); 20 May 2018 14:28:28 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 20 May 2018 14:28:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 1E6F2C8DAB for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 14:28:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.5 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c42BIL6J1RsY for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 14:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id C3AB55F4E7 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 14:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CF318044909 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 07:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from picard.home (pool-96-248-55-73.pghkny.fios.verizon.net [96.248.55.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: keith@suderman.com) by homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFCBF18044907 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Suderman Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_78418BEF-ECFE-4A49-8F70-84BE7BC42369" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Renumber Groovy 2.6 to 2.9 Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 10:28:21 -0400 References: <5b017756.1c69fb81.4ac57.dc02SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> To: dev@groovy.apache.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) --Apple-Mail=_78418BEF-ECFE-4A49-8F70-84BE7BC42369 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 -1 I'm going to rain on the parade. I like consistent versioning and = skipping versions is not consistent. Why not 2.999 or 2.9999999 then? - Keith > On May 20, 2018, at 10:01 AM, C=C3=A9dric Champeau = wrote: >=20 > +1 but alternatively, we could just skip 2.6 and go straight to 3.0. >=20 > Le dim. 20 mai 2018 =C3=A0 15:25, mg > a =C3=A9crit : > 2.9.0 could make people ask themselves where 2.6/2.7/2.8 went, whereas = 2.97 is so far from 2.5, that I think people would get that it means = more "3.0 minus small, but (significant) delta" (i.e. not just an = epsilon, as with 2.99, which Russel suggested). Plus the "7" has a = mnemonic quality, making it easier for everyone to remember what the = main point of this release was... >=20 > (2.9 would be much better than 2.6, though...) >=20 >=20 > -------- Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht -------- > Von: Andres Almiray > > Datum: 20.05.18 15:11 (GMT+01:00) > An: dev@groovy.apache.org > Cc: paulk@asert.com.au > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Renumber Groovy 2.6 to 2.9 >=20 > I=E2=80=99d suggest to keep it simple, go with 2.9.0.=20 >=20 > Sent from my primitive Tricorder >=20 > On 20 May 2018, at 21:50, mg > wrote: >=20 >> What about 2.97 ? Incorporates a JDK 7 reference, and is not too = close to 3.0 (Bugfixes could go into 2.97.1 etc..., so the "7" could be = kept). >>=20 >> -------- Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht -------- >> Von: Russel Winder > >> Datum: 20.05.18 12:26 (GMT+01:00) >> An: paulk@asert.com.au , = dev@groovy.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Renumber Groovy 2.6 to 2.9 >>=20 >> On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 13:58 +1000, Paul King wrote: >> > Hi, >> >=20 >> > I was wondering what people thought about renumbering Groovy 2.6 to = 2.9. >> > It is only a subtle change but I think better conveys that it isn't = a small >> > step up >> > from 2.5 but rather something just a bit short of 3. >> >=20 >>=20 >> If it is to be the last 2.X release why not 2.99 to make it more "in = your >> face"? >>=20 >> --=20 >> Russel. >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 >> 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 >> London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk = ---------------------- Keith Suderman Research Associate Department of Computer Science Vassar College, Poughkeepsie NY suderman@cs.vassar.edu --Apple-Mail=_78418BEF-ECFE-4A49-8F70-84BE7BC42369 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 -1

I'm = going to rain on the parade.  I like consistent versioning and = skipping versions is not consistent.  Why not 2.999 or 2.9999999 = then?

- = Keith


On May 20, 2018, at 10:01 AM, = C=C3=A9dric Champeau <cedric.champeau@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 but alternatively, we could just skip 2.6 and go straight = to 3.0.

Le dim. 20 mai 2018 =C3=A0 15:25, mg = <mgbiz@arscreat.com> a =C3=A9crit :
2.9.0 = could make people ask themselves where 2.6/2.7/2.8 went, whereas 2.97 is = so far from 2.5, that I think people would get that it means more "3.0 = minus small, but (significant) delta" (i.e. not just an epsilon, as with = 2.99, which Russel suggested). Plus the "7" has a mnemonic quality, = making it easier for everyone to remember what the main point of this = release was...

(2.9 = would be much better than 2.6, though...)


-------- = Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Andres = Almiray <aalmiray@gmail.com>
Datum: = 20.05.18 15:11 (GMT+01:00)
An: dev@groovy.apache.org
Cc: paulk@asert.com.au
Betreff: Re: = [DISCUSS] Renumber Groovy 2.6 to 2.9

I=E2=80=99d suggest to keep it simple, go with = 2.9.0. 

Sent from my = primitive Tricorder

On 20 May 2018, = at 21:50, mg <mgbiz@arscreat.com> wrote:

What= about 2.97 ? Incorporates a JDK 7 reference, and is not too close to = 3.0 (Bugfixes could go into 2.97.1 etc..., so the "7" could be = kept).

-------- Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht = --------
Von: Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk>
Datum: = 20.05.18 12:26 (GMT+01:00)
An: paulk@asert.com.au, dev@groovy.apache.org
Betreff: Re: = [DISCUSS] Renumber Groovy 2.6 to 2.9

On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 13:58 +1000, Paul King = wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I = was wondering what people thought about renumbering Groovy 2.6 to = 2.9.
> It is only a subtle change but I think better = conveys that it isn't a small
> step up
> from 2.5 but rather something just a bit short of 3.
>

If it is to be the last = 2.X release why not 2.99 to make it more "in your
face"?

--
Russel.
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Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 = 2200
41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 = 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk



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Keith = Suderman
Research Associate
Department of Computer = Science
Vassar = College, Poughkeepsie NY




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