Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44826200C0D for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 19:43:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 434C3160B52; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 91DFF160B36 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 19:43:06 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 59189 invoked by uid 500); 31 Jan 2017 18:43:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@groovy.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@groovy.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 59173 invoked by uid 99); 31 Jan 2017 18:43:05 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:43:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id D1AED189AEB for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:43:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.999] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZHSy9KYWkU0u for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dimen.winder.org.uk (dimen.winder.org.uk [87.127.116.10]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 467E65F238 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from anglides.winder.org.uk (anglides.winder.org.uk [192.168.1.8]) by dimen.winder.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10DDE6002DD; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:42:49 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1485888168.10632.22.camel@winder.org.uk> Subject: Re: release process From: Russel Winder To: dev@groovy.apache.org Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:42:48 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <5880C018.3070204@gmx.org> <5882505D.1090304@gmx.org> <29E34952-6E24-4AC5-BA5D-A5304468285C@anc.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZU2Aj7QPenge4ZHT31nk" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.4-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 archived-at: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:43:07 -0000 --=-ZU2Aj7QPenge4ZHT31nk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2017-01-30 at 21:32 +0100, Guillaume Laforge wrote: > That's indeed another approach. > But that would mean two close major releases with breaking changes. > Do you > think it'd be acceptable? Major releases are what breaking changes are for. Or did I mean that the other way around. Having voted YES in the VOTE, which seems to very quickly stop being a VOTE and turned into a debate, I would be happy with the alternate proposal (which is not an alternate fact) =46rom Andres: - Groovy 2.5: integrates 1 and 2, to be released ASAP, we've been waiting for this for too long - Groovy 3.0: integrate 3, 4 and 5. The only version with necessary breaking changes (we have no choice here) =46rom Jochen: no 2.5 - 3.0 with macro methods and Java7 and parrot - 4.0 java8 and jigsaw =46rom Alessio: =C2=A0- 2.5 as C=C3=A9dric proposed (so Java 7 + macros) =C2=A0- 3.0 with Java 8 and Parrot =C2=A0- 4.0 with Java 9 and Jigsaw? All of these work fine given they ignore the supposed new MOP of Groovy 3 :-) Remember the first number is always about breaking changes, so lets do it. Let's break stuff. Then people can put their things back together and make them better instead of just letting them rot. --=20 Russel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.n= et 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder --=-ZU2Aj7QPenge4ZHT31nk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEETwDs1X+Beyaiaer41L3V0s7Np7gFAliQ2qgACgkQ1L3V0s7N p7iQaA//fi6DURrFI9uwVPaykbZ7OGdR5UNKNnFCyL5OS+E50N/20MfQf1CBhGsu JaKGxpH+4WVkonKHaUl9tOmuFTz1cjnTRehElUtpIkSCu2D41mah5GCoNNMdOYBj 3cEzWrer9piBmn7sJ4ZhjToqaghCLaGEZ0cOpfhqym8ZDKVgPNxNspknkbVePOrF R577KRUcbNBKp5dU0Nzjx3FY5wlMATj4QYGng+qVT68/FZA8/XxMtYPs0t7zBlEr cpHq3N8ZEbYHlHBeXPk/vKJIyCnSv9Y17qUTceHyCgY9VPcUCQLEhSlqmuy8ipcD os5JIJA55PPwt6UqeWCmF7oICCdnj/QLnxsXuRKI6ymKnQgv0LxgpDKg+AFElXVI LSE8UeZqsj0LtbhtJwRfMFN4AHu2I6+q9L8F2cuYIRsS8KecEQoyhjTs0CjgY6bX TJoKKwdDyOBJa2nc4tYjfObm+S2r9hqZY74fSTNdcA741dJVN4ubZmyidf1dO9Dk 2/qTF58RKXwjZcJZMONU6lgsZXrKAv5Vdp0+XDjn30lm6CSXR837RWV+XMrqGLMQ Q85vrBrD7wzC20I2XVNcQtnHzdmp+jWA+0qYbHx+zjXt1GCMqSwgf2EAqBKhhPbG yGe1Mhq37tEmr0VjnyIE1/PxuLZBzxlk0JHlA9yDs4pStJIMmL0= =4xPI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZU2Aj7QPenge4ZHT31nk--