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From Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Release 2.5 Beta?
Date Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:13:21 GMT
For a beta, I think it can be okay, but for the final release of 2.5,
documentation will be of course mandatory, and we can't release it without
that documentation. As I often say, a feature which is not documented
doesn't exist!

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Shil Sinha <shil.sinha@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it's a bit of a problem, still, when it's really that particular
>> feature which is in beta, and that we'll want users to test. Without
>> knowing it's there and how to use it it's going to be hard to have feedback.
>
>
> Agreed, it would be strange to not have any documentation for the focal
> point of a release. Are there any external references which we could direct
> users to? Not from within the repo itself, but when promoting the release
> elsewhere e.g. Twitter.
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Cédric Champeau <
> cedric.champeau@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So does everyone agree that we should release the beta even if it's
>> missing docs for macros? I think it's a bit of a problem, still, when it's
>> really that particular feature which is in beta, and that we'll want users
>> to test. Without knowing it's there and how to use it it's going to be hard
>> to have feedback.
>>
>> 2016-03-13 0:56 GMT+01:00 Suderman Keith <suderman@cs.vassar.edu>:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Guillaume Laforge <glaforge@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's go with mushroom, for a change :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Cédric Champeau <
>>> cedric.champeau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-03-12 0:05 GMT+01:00 Nicholas Grealy <nickgrealy@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like it's just you and me, Pascal!
>>>>>
>>>>> Just some questions for the broader dev community:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Who can perform the release? - Cédric looked like he single
>>>>>    handedly pushed out version 2.4.6 - can we ask him to prepare the
2.5 beta
>>>>>    release?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Until we've switched to a new release process, it's still easier if I
>>>> do it, yes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    -
>>>>>    - Is there anything outstanding for a 2.5 beta release? -
>>>>>    Whoever's we're waiting on, can we get an update?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> There are lots of outstanding issues, that's why it's a beta. In
>>>> particular, the new (exciting!) macro stuff is not documented, nor the AST
>>>> matcher complete. It's a super nice feature that deserves polishing. Plus,
>>>> there are some decisions to be made with regards to applying the global
>>>> `macro` AST xform globally or not, in particular with groovy-all. We can
>>>> solve this after the beta, for sure, but we need to think about it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    -
>>>>>    - Do we need a VOTE thread for a beta release?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's a release. We can call it "beta", "rc" or "mushroom", it's a
>>>> release anyway :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 at 22:52 Nicholas Grealy <nickgrealy@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 20:37 Pascal Schumacher <pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as far as I remember there was wide support for releasing a 2.5
beta
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the "Release 2.4.6 and 2.5.0-beta?" discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The release announcement for 2.4.6 contained the sentence "...
be
>>>>>>> prepared for a 2.5.0-beta release soon!". Tomorrow that will
be two
>>>>>>> weeks ago, so I think we should make some plans when we start
the
>>>>>>> release vote and who will be able to serve as a release manager.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Pascal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>> Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com/>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> Poughkeepsie, NY
>>>
>>>
>>
>


-- 
Guillaume Laforge
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Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com>

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