Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-groovy-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-groovy-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C4D518BA8 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31096 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jan 2016 23:09:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-groovy-dev-archive@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 31048 invoked by uid 500); 28 Jan 2016 23:09:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@groovy.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@groovy.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 31038 invoked by uid 99); 28 Jan 2016 23:09:44 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 41003C3318 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.323 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.323 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URI_HEX=1.313] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pS7thbbZAWgl for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr40.theemaillaundry.net (mr40.theemaillaundry.net [109.169.43.35]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8CDB720426 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.brandandsign.com (smtp.brandandsign.com [46.38.186.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mr40.theemaillaundry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42BB117B888 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr30.theemaillaundry.net ([78.46.72.43]) by smtp.brandandsign.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aOvgt-0007hq-Ep; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mr30.theemaillaundry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F98240977; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr30.theemaillaundry.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mr30.theemaillaundry.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0cDrDTi6t29f; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from onyx.factgem.com (onyx.factgem.com [208.52.170.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mr30.theemaillaundry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F1D72403E4; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.0.1.16] (c-73-129-126-169.hsd1.md.comcast.net [73.129.126.169]) by onyx.factgem.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90A5023BF8E6 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:09:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at theemaillaundry.net From: Clark Richey Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23A136D2-A8C3-455A-9A62-21400B440429 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Groovy 3.0 Message-Id: <0CCA3790-E2FA-4230-8261-570B51DEBE57@factgem.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:09:23 -0500 References: <7BB17F4C-00F2-4562-BC11-5D391C1BB3D7@factgem.com> In-Reply-To: To: dev@groovy.apache.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13D15) X-BrandAndSign: Branded --Apple-Mail-23A136D2-A8C3-455A-9A62-21400B440429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Understood. My concern, and I believe it mirrors a concern held by others, = is that on the surface with no indications of beta releases, road maps or a= ny current development activity it looks like Groovy development stalled wh= en Codehaus dropped its support. =0A=0AI agree that you don't want an unrea= listic roadmap but right now when people google for Groovy 3.0 all they fin= d are very old articles that talk about t possible being released in 2014 o= r so. =0A=0AI'm a big fan of groovy and I just don't want to see people bac= k away from it because they are afraid that with the improvements in Java 8= and soon(ish) Java 9 that Groovy is a thing of the past. =0A=0ASent from m= y iPhone=0A=0A> =0A=0A-- =0AClark Richey=0ACHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER=0A240.2= 52.7507=0ACLARK@FACTGEM.COM=0AWWW.FACTGEM.COM=0A=0AThis message and any inc= luded attachments are property of FactGem and its=0Aaffiliates, and are int= ended only for the addressee(s). 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I just haven't been able to find much information in devel= opment status since the website changes occurred and I was vaguely concerne= d. =0A>> =0A>> Sent from my iPhone=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Clark Riche= y=0A>> CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER=0A>> =0A>> =09240.252.7507=0A>> =09CLARK@= FACTGEM.COM =0A>> =09WWW.FACTGEM.COM=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Th= is message and any included attachments are property of FactGem and its aff= iliates, and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contai= ned herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidentia= l information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distribu= ting, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.= If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are n= ot authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify= the sender by e-mail. 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Understood. My concern, an= d I believe it mirrors a concern held by others, is that on the surface wit= h no indications of beta releases, road maps or any current development act= ivity it looks like Groovy development stalled when Codehaus dropped its su= pport. 

I agree that you don't want an unrealistic roadmap but rig= ht now when people google for Groovy 3.0 all they find are very old article= s that talk about t possible being released in 2014 or so. 

I'm a = big fan of groovy and I just don't want to see people back away from it bec= ause they are afraid that with the improvements in Java 8 and soon(ish) Jav= a 9 that Groovy is a thing of the past. 

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On Jan 28, 2016, at 16:06, Paul King <paulk@asert.com.au> wrote:

Yes, we spoke about putting back some kind of = roadmap page that was in the old website (and I have an action to make some= progress in that regard). But we didn't want to make the roadmap unrealist= ic either, so we want to get the wording right.

Cheers= , Paul.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 5:59 AM, Clark Richey <clark@factgem.com&g= t; wrote:
Thanks. I just haven't been able to find much information in development s= tatus since the website changes occurred and I was vaguely concerned. =

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