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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:54:38 +0100
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Subject: Re: challenges through Java modules (aka jigsaw)
From: Guillaume Laforge <glaforge@gmail.com>
To: dev@groovy.incubator.apache.org
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Furthermore, there are other languages like Scala which broke people's code
at every release, and they are still being used and haven't seen that much
fragmentation.

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk> wrote=
:

> On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 21:05 +0100, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> [=E2=80=A6]
> > compatibility, but the differences between Python 2 and 3 were much
> > bigger
> > that what we're speaking about here.
>
> It is time to put this Python 2 to Python 3 bogeyman into the dustbin
> of history. With Python 3.3 and later conversion of Python 2.7 codes to
> Python 3.x (x =E2=89=A5 3) codes is relatively straightforward unless you=
r code
> is fundamentally based on a string of length 1 being a 8-bit byte
> (which is why Mercurial has a problem). No other Python 2 codes have a
> problem other than intransigence of the programmers.
>
> --
> Russel.
>
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> London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk  skype: russel_winder
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Guillaume Laforge
Apache Groovy committer & PMC member
Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Furthermore, there are other languages like Scala which br=
oke people&#39;s code at every release, and they are still being used and h=
aven&#39;t seen that much fragmentation.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Russel Winder=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:russel@winder.org.uk" target=3D"_b=
lank">russel@winder.org.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 21:05 +0100, Guillaume Laforge wrote:<br>
[=E2=80=A6]<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; compatibility, but the differences between Python 2 a=
nd 3 were much<br>
&gt; bigger<br>
&gt; that what we&#39;re speaking about here.<br>
<br>
</span>It is time to put this Python 2 to Python 3 bogeyman into the dustbi=
n<br>
of history. With Python 3.3 and later conversion of Python 2.7 codes to<br>
Python 3.x (x =E2=89=A5 3) codes is relatively straightforward unless your =
code<br>
is fundamentally based on a string of length 1 being a 8-bit byte<br>
(which is why Mercurial has a problem). No other Python 2 codes have a<br>
problem other than intransigence of the programmers.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
--<br>
Russel.<br>
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Dr Russel Winder=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 t: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%2020%207585%20=
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41 Buckmaster Road=C2=A0 =C2=A0 m: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%207770%20465%20077"=
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mailto:russel@winder.org.uk">russel@winder.org.uk</a><br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Guillaume Laforge<br>Apache Groovy committer &=
amp; PMC member</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Product Ninja &amp; Advocate at <a hr=
ef=3D"http://restlet.com" target=3D"_blank">Restlet</a><br><div><br></div><=
div>Blog:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://glaforge.appspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://glaforge.appspot.com/</a><div><div>Social: <a href=3D"http://twitter.=
com/glaforge" target=3D"_blank">@glaforge</a>=C2=A0/ <a href=3D"https://plu=
s.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts" target=3D"_blank">Google+</a>=
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