Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-groovy-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-groovy-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20BEE17F47 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66292 invoked by uid 500); 28 Sep 2015 14:35:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-groovy-dev-archive@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 66250 invoked by uid 500); 28 Sep 2015 14:35:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@groovy.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@groovy.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@groovy.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 66239 invoked by uid 99); 28 Sep 2015 14:35:31 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 8B12FC08AC for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lI_BaP_You9v for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 3C89020645 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.237]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id NebH1r00857bBgG01ebJ1M; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:18 +0000 Received: from tinybb.boudnik.org ([24.130.135.131]) by resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id NebH1r0062qGB6001ebHdr; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:35:17 +0000 Received: by tinybb.boudnik.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id BCF6B974; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:38:01 -0700 From: Konstantin Boudnik To: dev@groovy.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] What about moving out teh Incubator ? Message-ID: <20150928143801.GV19314@boudnik.org> References: <56068BCE.6040105@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <56068BCE.6040105@gmail.com> X-Organization: It's something of 'Cos User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1443450918; bh=eHE9y9FoIhmha5Jn9nbDULB6TDQeg0EUGMZgEajnBuA=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uEqsZjhv4xTXxQuTEG0sJeBVtezHQ4bT/fGYuYpxaVf4Es2huPByw9fZqv2e7r703 RhW10K+oRpafM6AwlNA3IqSUhdagASB5Fv+rL8NMvBesipGKVMk3cEZJrR6FFYr/nP exEUEpdU2MU+XLQfeygtt10UtQJbm0I/LAOWOGJaqSIW3YORfXrUESJwBHvZCJuJwx Eqwyt5PRCsJ4LyUIu+xn/z1yfKd+zxS8q8Glqe37jIxo2hv4s8+fwSnjPvNsfwwnti ayFeZvHuY/cskpGz34Mi59AkBO4AqDQIFS68OYTttmHKG7X94+BVqvezGoQDVMwDLW 3U6lX9SVGteQg== Sorry about the long silence - crazy a couple of weeks before the ApacheCon. Here's my take on this: release wise I believe you guys have mastered it. Although, having one more might provide a helpful data point for IPMC folks, when it comes to the voting on the graduation. Another point, as Roman mentioned, is community growth. Adding new committers/PPMC based only on the technical merits might be a bit difficult, considering the maturity and complexity of the project. However, committer-ship shouldn't be limited exclusively to those who contribute just code. Say, people who do great job helping the community to grow and be more visible by performing, essentially, community marketing are, in my opinion, great candidates to committers. I don't believe there should be a rush to get out of the Incubator until this last aspect is worked out. I also don't think it is a blocker, but I'd rather see it is addressed before we go to IPMC. Cos On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 02:13PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 26/09/15 14:07, Guillaume Laforge a écrit : > > Cool! > > So what should we be doing now? > > I'd like to hear from the other mentors... (Andrew, Konstantin, Jim and > Roman) > > Ah, btw this page must be updated : > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/groovy.html > > Many of the incubation steps have already been completed. > >