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From "P. Taylor Goetz" <ptgo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Leave apache and the incubator
Date Mon, 06 Aug 2018 16:05:19 GMT
We should start with a retirement vote on dev@. If that passes, we move on to a IPMC vote on
retirement.

Once that’s done, there are a few administrative steps that need to be done. [1]

-Taylor

[1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxguru@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Let figure out the steps.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Should I help by looking at what actually needs to be done to retire?
>> Seems like we're back in the same exact state :)
>> 
>> I'd rather us focus efforts on retiring than writing yet another incubator
>> report that says "nothing happened".
>> 
>> On 7/25/18 1:29 PM, Edward Capriolo wrote:
>> 
>>> To follow up on this.
>>> 
>>> +1 from me for "let's get things reviewed & merged before next report in
a
>>> month".
>>> 
>>> No activity has happened. The board reports are due soon, I would rather
>>> not write another report to summarize no activity. We should start the
>>> vote
>>> to shut down now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Sree V <sree_at_chess@yahoo.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Edward,
>>>> I am not aware of the difficulty in setting up the website or continuous
>>>> modifications to it.If you feel so, you may make a motion for an
>>>> alternate
>>>> solutions (eg. git pages, ...) and link to 'gossip.incubator.apache.org
>>>> '.And
>>>> Apache.org is allowing it, now. Similar to, https://apache.github.io/
>>>> incubator-heron/
>>>> It would be a one time task.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> +1 from me for "let's get things reviewed & merged before next report
in
>>>> a
>>>> month".
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>> You have been very helpful so far.  And I appreciate that,
>>>> personally.Please suggest a replacement or ad-hoc help that can set us in
>>>> motion for the next few months, until we streamline.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Edward/Team,
>>>> I am proposing a meetup event for kick start, again.A hackathon style,
>>>> that would add to our code base.
>>>> Josh came forward honestly. Thank you. Let us go through the rest of the
>>>> names assigned to gossip and find out their level of contributions to
>>>> gossip.And may be find alternatives or announce open positions.That
>>>> should
>>>> attract contributors to gossip.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.Sree
>>>> 
>>>>     On Monday, July 9, 2018, 11:35:21 AM PDT, Josh Elser <
>>>> elserj@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  I'd clarify that I don't consider myself to be a part of Gossip. I
>>>> exist
>>>> only to satisfy my obligations of being a mentor (and even that is
>>>> difficult for me, most days).
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/8/18 11:21 AM, Sree V wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Edward,
>>>>> Allow me to introduce myself, as the creator of the current gossip
>>>>> 
>>>> website with the help of Josh.
>>>> 
>>>>> I prefer to stay in Apache.org.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Four willing people from this conversation, should be good enough to
>>>>> 
>>>> take Gossip forward.(Josh, Chandresh, Ankur & Myself)
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You summarized the work involved very nicely.  Thanks.Let's add (i mean
>>>>> 
>>>> request) names to each of those tasks. And we are done.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Delegate"; "Divide & Conquer"; "Epic, Story, Tasks..." .... always
>>>>> 
>>>> worked historically.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.Sree Vaddi
>>>>> 650.213.2707 M
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      On Friday, July 6, 2018, 8:07:58 AM PDT, Josh Elser <
>>>>> 
>>>> elserj@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On 7/5/18 6:59 PM, Edward Capriolo wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of the ones with reports, not much sign off.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if your going to make a big deal about reports...time to shut
down
>>>>>> 
>>>>> the
>>>> 
>>>>> entire incubator.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> While I know this is tongue-in-cheek, the folks who help out in the
>>>>> Incubator are well-stretched already. This isn't a new discussion that
>>>>> is coming out of the IPMC -- I'm just actually trying to get Gossip to
>>>>> honestly think about this (the comments about how using Github would
be
>>>>> easier made me think I wasn't off-base).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 


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