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From Jason Dillon <>
Subject Re: Slim spring?
Date Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:28:15 GMT
Slimmer == better IMO.  Still wish those 2 core jars were like half  
the size though :-(  Maybe someone can shade them to remove any  
uneeded crapo?  But still 0.5m is *much* better than 2m IMO.

Not sure about the provided bits, IMO it should be easy for folks to  
use a newer+compatible version of spring, so whatever that is, I'm  
for that.  But atm I'm not sure if that is to use provided and force  
folks to declare (which they probably already will) or to force folks  
to use excludes if needed.

Would be nice of Maven had some support for this uber jar concept and  
could handle projects saying that I depend on "spring" and then  
figure out what the correct version is to use, regardless of an  
uberjar or partials.  Or *uck it... just don't use ubers, though I  
know they are nice and simple.  Blah...


On Jul 19, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> How does everyone feel about changing from the uber-spring jar (2M)  
> to the spring module jars?  Here is a sizing chart:
> spring-beans-2.0.5.jar    379K
> spring-context-2.0.5.jar  156K
>                           ----
>                           531K
> spring-web-2.0.5.jar      148K  # optional for web context
> spring-jmx-2.0.5.jar       85K  # optional xbean-server
> With full spring at 2M this is a pretty big savings.  This will  
> also help to keep the modules free of using other stuff from spring.
> On the other hand, maven and uber jars don't always get along.  If  
> anther project imports xbean-spring, they will either need to use  
> the spring module jars, or exclude them transitively from the xbean- 
> spring.  Alternatively, we could mark them as provided, and then  
> the importing project will need to explicitly import spring in  
> which ever form they like.
> I'd prefer we go with the spring-module approach, but mark all the  
> spring jars as provided.  This make it easier for users to upgrade  
> to newer spring releases (no exclude/reinclude).
> -dain
> BTW, I did test this actually works :)

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