Yes Juergen, I second you.
I have fixed my problem and I am happy to see geronimo has implemented what you have said for webservices. see below:


This is the code in openejb-jar.xml.  Here we are explicitly defining to use sample-realm for webservice exposed by  SampleImp EJB. I am able to call the webservice using the principal credentials.

I am still not very sure why geronimo can't geronimo has <ejb:ejb-security> like follows:


Can someone please put more light on it?

Shailen (
Mohali, Chandigarh - 160062

On Wednesday 02 February 2011 01:26 PM, weberjn wrote:
One could rather argue that a client should not know about an ejb's security
configuration. This should be only known in the ejb configuration, and
nowhere else, definitivly not on the client. The ejb deployer should be able
to switch from one security realm to another, without the client knowing.
there's no easy way to predict which application's ejb or which ejb you
want to call
I understand this is because security lookup is done during creation of the
InitialContext and the lookup with JNDI name is done in the next call.

An alternative would be to define an order of security realm lookups.


David Jencks wrote:
This is the right place to ask this question.

Geronimo lets you set up many security realms at once.  When you connect
from a remote client to call ejbs, there's no easy way to predict which
application's ejb or which ejb you want to call.  So you have to specify
how you want to log in when you connect.

We could allow specifying a default security realm for all of openejb so
if you don't specify a realm we use the default.

david jencks

On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Shailen wrote:

Hi All,

I have a very simple ejb deployed on geronimo2.2.1. This ejb is secured
by a security realm(Database(SQL) realm). When I call this ejb from a
standalone java client, it restricts me from accessing it without

But when I provide this principal and credentials then also it restricts
me from calling this ejb.
When I additionally provide realmName then it enables me to call this

My question is why do we need to provide the security realm name in the

I am sorry if this is not the right place to ask such questions.

Shailen (
Mohali, Chandigarh - 160062