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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: Jsf RI (Mojarra) in Geronimo
Date Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:03:57 GMT

On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Ray Clough wrote:

> It would be plausible if I were willing to lose my job for it.  My  
> boss might possibly complain.

If you can't help investigate why this problem is occurring could you  
please open a jira with whatever details you can tell us?  A sample  
app showing the problem would be ideal, although that seems a bit  
unrealistic if you can't do any investigation.

BTW I'd also be curious.... if there is an xml equivalent to the seam  
annotation...., to know if the same info in xml works.

david jencks.
> - Ray Clough
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Jencks []
> Sent: Tue 2/10/2009 7:33 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Jsf RI (Mojarra) in Geronimo
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Ray Clough wrote:
>> The bug is a little hard to describe.  We're using Seam, and one of
>> the page 'models' uses the Seam @Autocreate annotation.  The page
>> (facelet) should cause this to load.  Later, the model class
>> attempts to access it from the context where it is expected to
>> reside, and it has not been autocreated.  This was resulting in a
>> NPE.  Changing to Mojarra causes the error to go away, and the
>> autocreate to work properly.  It is easy enough to work around, but
>> we'd rather it worked as advertised.  Since we will soon have to
>> support deployment on multiple platforms, we'd like to standardize
>> on the JSF library which doesn't cause us problems.
> From our point of view we'd prefer that our bundled jsf works :-)
> I wonder if the problem is that seam is in a child classloader from
> myfaces whereas if you bundle everything in your app then they are
> both in the same classloader?  There are some ways to test this but
> they would be tricky unless you are building your app as plugins using
> maven.  I guess what you could do is define a mojarra plugin including
> the mojarra jars and jee-specs as dependencies and get that installed
> and then turn off the myfaces-deployer in your server when deploying
> your app. (you'd also need a dependency on your new mojarra plugin).
> If you want to test this or know enough about what is going on to
> think this is plausible please let us know.
> thanks
> david jencks
>> Thanks for your help.
>> - Ray Clough
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevan Miller []
>> Sent: Sun 2/8/2009 5:40 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: Jsf RI (Mojarra) in Geronimo
>> On Feb 7, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Ray_Clough wrote:
>>> All the discussion I have seen about using Sun's RI of JSF (Mojarra)
>>> is
>>> pretty old.  Are there any new developments.  We've run into some
>>> MyFaces
>>> bugs that make us want to use Mojarra, which doesn't suffer the same
>>> bug.
>>> Is it possible now to swap MyFaces for Mojarra?
>> As Alexey has already mentioned, you can include Mojarra in your app
>> and use <inverse-classloading> or <hidden-classes> in a geronimo
>> deployment plan...
>> Can you tell us what MyFaces bugs you're having problems with?
>> --kevan
>> <winmail.dat>
> <winmail.dat>

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