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From Peter Petersson <>
Subject Re: Startup time delay in Ubuntu server
Date Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:44:40 GMT
Thank you for your input David

The dns timeout problem David is hinting at could be the case.

Although uddi is related to web services I may have jumped to 
conclusions regarding this startup delay problem being linked to one of 
our web service applications "miss behaving" although It has appeared 
that way.

The next time I see this startup delay again (if it happens again) we 
will take a closer look at what the dns service "named" may have put in 
the /var/log/syslog log file on our dns server.

Luis: Have you found out if it is the uddi module that takes time to 
start ? If so dose your Geronimo servers (server and laptop) reside on a 
network with a local managed dns server (other than resolvconf)?

David Jencks wrote:
> I think its unlikely you are actually using uddi so I'd suggest 
> disabling the uddi module in var/config/config.xml (comment out 
> jetty-uddi or tomcat-uddi) and see if this helps.
> I'd wonder if there's some dns timeout occurring perhaps due to some 
> kind of misconfiguration, however I'm no expert on this stuff.
> not sure if this is likely to help :-(
> david jencks
> On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Peter Petersson wrote:
>> We are still on the 7.10 Gutsy release.
>> You should be able to locate what module it is that takes time to 
>> start by looking in the geronimo.out file. If your issue is related 
>> to uddi and a web service (WSDL like my issue is) maybe the service 
>> is not released correctly during Geronimo server shutdown prior to 
>> restart but this is speculation on my part.
>> Maybe someone with deeper knowledge of the inner workings of uddi can 
>> shed some light on this?
>> regards
>> Peter Petersson
>> Luis Ortíz Silva wrote:
>>> Thank you Peter.
>>> In the firts time i supoussed that is a problem with the uddi 
>>> service beacause always stoped in this point but in the feature. 
>>> didn't stop here stops before star the tomcat container. I used to 
>>> check the open ports before start the server and any port had 
>>> already in use.
>>> I think is a lack issue when Geronimo tries to find or bind a 
>>> network service or resource, but i can't isolated the issue beacuase 
>>> Geronimo not sends any exception, only waits.
>>> Do you are using 8.04 o 8.10 Ubuntu?
>>> Regards
>>> 2009/1/5 Peter Petersson < 
>>> <>>
>>>    Hi Luis
>>>    I am using Geronimo 2.1.x on a Ubuntu server and have seen this
>>>    behavior a couple of times.
>>>    In my case the startup delay problem you describe has occurred
>>>    during a re-start of Geronimo and in my case. By checking the
>>>    <geronimo home>/var/log/geronimo.out file I have found the
>>>    following module to be the one taken time to start
>>>    Module 18/80 
>>> org.apache.geronimo.configs/uddi-tomcat/2.1/car                        
>>> started in  3:01.119s
>>>    In my case the problem has been related to a prior "misbehavior"
>>>    of a web service application (during shutdown of Geronimo) and the
>>>    delay is probably related to a port binding issue. Apart from the
>>>    somewhat alarming startup delay I have not noticed any following
>>>    sub sequential problem with the running Geronimo server or any
>>>    deployed web service.
>>>    If you hit this problem frequently maybe you can find out if you
>>>    have a port issue by checking your systems used ports with
>>>    "netstat -lp" (prior to start/restart of Geronimo) against the
>>>    ports Geronimo allocates. Ports used by Geronimo is listed in the
>>>    var/log/geronimo.out file.
>>>    I have only seen this a problem a few times during a relatively
>>>    long time and some Geronimo restarts so I have not investigated
>>>    the issue any future but maybe this information will point you in
>>>    the right direction. If needed maybe someone else can fill in the
>>>    blanks ;).
>>>    regards
>>>     Peter Petersson
>>>    Luis Ortíz Silva wrote:
>>>        Hi:
>>>        I'am getting a big startup issue with mi Geronimo 2.1.3 in
>>>        Ubuntu Server 8.04 kernel 2.6.24-22-server . It takes 4
>>>        minutes to start. I start with thi verbose options. But after
>>>        this message:
>>>        "17:11:53,456 INFO  [SystemProperties] Setting
>>>        Property=org.apache.catalina.STRICT_SERVLET_COMPLIANCE to
>>>        Value=true
>>>        Geronimos stops the startup process and delays about 4 minutes
>>>        in continue.
>>>        I analized the iptables rules, disable the IPv6 capabilities
>>>        (beacuse Geronimo always binds to an INET6 port), apparmor is
>>>        desabled, but the problem persist in the time. I reproduced
>>>        the same error in my laptop, and always did the same.
>>>        If anyone knows how to solve this issue i apreciate a lot,
>>>        beacuse i need to put in productive mode this server.

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