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From "Bruno Melloni" <>
Subject RE: Geronimo's vision
Date Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:24:51 GMT
Thank you, that is the answer that I was wishing for, but not counting

When I first discovered Geronimo as an Apache project a couple of weeks
ago, I did not even consider the possibility of it being "single product
focused".  It was obvious to me that this was the next server I'd use
for my personal work.  Then I saw a couple of minor troubling signs,
like the large percentage and how a bug report was handled, and I
started to worry about whether I'd done enough research.

Thanks for the info.  I hope other committers will also comment on the


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay D. McHugh [] 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Geronimo's vision

Hello Bruno,

I'm not sure how anyone else would react, but I don't see Geronimo as
simply an incubator for WASCE.

I tried using WASCE about a year ago and after learning that it had
Geronimo as a base - I switched to Geronimo.  And, I haven't looked back
(no offense IBM).

In fact, CE's last release (last time I checked anyway) was based on
Geronimo 1.1 and was about a year ago.

In that time, Geronimo has made tremendous strides toward full JEE5
support (in the 2.0 branch) and towards a more than complete J2EE
version (in the 1.2 branch).

IBM may currently be the employer of a large number of commiters, but I
think that it is just a matter of time before non-IBMers begin to catch
up (and hopefully pass) in the committer base for the project.

I for one have never considered Geronimo as simply being the incubator
for WASCE .  Geronimo was around before WASCE ever did.  The fact that
IBM has used it as the base simply testifies to how complete a product
Geronimo is and the level of quality it possesses.


Bruno Melloni wrote:
> With thanks to IBM for their heavy contributions to Geronimo - about 
> 50% of Geronimo's contributors - and no criticism intended, I am 
> wondering about Apache's long term intent for the product.
> Is it intended to eventually be taken over by the Apache community at 
> large, with no single firm dominating the decision-making?  In such 
> case I can easily see it filling the vacuum left when jBoss was bought

> out by RedHat.
> Or is it intended to be/remain as an incubator for Websphere Community

> Edition?
> Bruno

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