Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61639 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2006 22:14:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2006 22:14:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 79491 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2006 22:14:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-user-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 79184 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2006 22:14:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: user@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list user@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 79173 invoked by uid 99); 5 Apr 2006 22:14:14 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:14:14 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [63.208.196.171] (HELO outbound.mailhop.org) (63.208.196.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:14:14 -0700 Received: from bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com ([129.33.49.251] helo=[9.27.40.109]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51) id 1FRGG9-000P6R-70 for user@geronimo.apache.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:13:53 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 129.33.49.251 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: hogndos Message-ID: <44344120.6010101@hogstrom.org> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:13:52 -0400 From: Matt Hogstrom User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: User Feedback Request -- this means you! References: <9E84FEF6-94F7-422D-962B-AE05C8BE67B2@visi.com> <20060405193024.GA6053@caboteria.org> In-Reply-To: <20060405193024.GA6053@caboteria.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Good points Tony, thanks. We are delinquent in the crusty bug situation. We'll see if we can sort that out as we get through 1.1. toby cabot wrote: > Hi David! > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 12:00:35PM -0800, David Blevins wrote: > >>So this is the first of what I think should be a quarterly event. >>Geronimo is ultimately your project and we committers are but your >>humble servants. To serve you best, we need some critical high level >>feedback to help us steer the project and focus on what matters most >>to you! > > > OK, I'll start with things I like about Geronimo. At the top of the > list would have to be messages like yours. Working with the Geronimo > team is a pleasure, and I can't say that about every open source > project that I've worked with. > > I like the emphasis on making things "just work." There's lots to be > done in that area (this is j2ee after all) but over the last couple of > years the dev team has made it a lot easier to deploy and run by > whittling down the complexity of the DD's needed. > > I like that the developers think like users. Example: a couple of > times I've seen deployment messages like "element foo doesn't work > anymore, try element bar." Projects like Geronimo move fast, so it's > hard to keep up. Pointers like this help a lot because they point me > in the right direction. > > >>Please, every user out there, give us your top 5 things we can do to >>make Geronimo better for you. > > > I think my list will be a little off-the-wall since I'm not going to > focus on features: > > 1. There are currently 293 unassigned bugs. A few are mine, and it's > discouraging. I'd suggest assigning them to a developer quickly, even > if she can't work on them right off the bat. At least that way I know > that someone's responsible for looking at it. > > 2. I've lost track of the wiki situation, but it looks as if there are > still two active wikis. It would be great if these could be merged > into one. > > 3. Better Javadoc. Geronimo's code is solid and the architecture is > very robust, but a lot of what makes Geronimo cool gets lost because > it's not documented in places where wanna-be developers can find it. > Javadoc is a fantastic doc system, we really need to take better > advantage of it. > > That's all I can think of for now, but I'll second the previous > suggestions for more frequent releases. > > Thanks! > Toby > > >