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From David Blevins <david.blev...@visi.com>
Subject Re: Website possibilities
Date Fri, 27 May 2005 19:24:06 GMT
Well, I think a part of the problem is that Confluenza expects too much from Confluence.  I
think there is something that can be done about it, but As I say, we aren't there yet.  Certainly
not going to switch over the OpenEJB site just yet.

-David

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 07:13:18AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> The only issue I see is that at least over at codehaus, they can't  
> seem to get Confluence to stabilize.  How stable and scalable is it?
> 
> geir
> 
> On May 26, 2005, at 3:54 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> 
> >I somehow missed your reply--anyone know how to get mutt to stop  
> >marking things as "Old"?
> >
> >Anyway, answers below....
> >
> >On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 12:04:55PM +1000, Gianny Damour wrote:
> >
> >>I love it!
> >>
> >>And I especially love the "Activity" section; this is one of the  
> >>thing
> >>that will help to provide a high-level overview of the activities.
> >>
> >
> >I like that it shows a heartbeat.  It's also kind of cool that it  
> >shows who opened the item and who closed it.  Seems like getting  
> >your name on the front page for a bit is good motivation to get  
> >involved.  Ditto for the "Recently Updated" section.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>I do have a couple of questions about the features of Confluence or
> >>Confluenza:
> >>
> >
> >We don't really need Confluenza.  Sans the caching, it just grabs  
> >html from Confluence and munges it to fix links and junk like that.
> >
> >
> >>* Can we export the overall website to an html tarball or even  
> >>better a PDF?
> >>
> >
> >Confluence does PDF.  So we could squirt one of those into every  
> >release, for example.  Not sure about HTML, but I'm guessing, yes.
> >
> >
> >>* Can we add support for search capabilities?
> >>
> >
> >Sure, Confluence has that already.  We'd just need a text box in  
> >the template.
> >
> >
> >>* When the documentation will start to grow, do you think that we  
> >>will
> >>be able to "easily" refactor the content? For instance, with  
> >>Microsoft
> >>Word (sorry for this poor example), there is an outline mode to
> >>(re-)structure a doc.
> >>
> >
> >You can move and rename stuff very easily.  Not sure how involved  
> >it would be to change the same fiddly-bit on every page, for  
> >example.  I guess if you had something major to do, you could  
> >export, change, and import.
> >
> >
> >>* Can we have an automatic hierarchical overview of the website  
> >>content?
> >>I mean, is the left navigation bar automatically generated from the
> >>content of the website or do we need to maintain it? Here, I am  
> >>looking
> >>for something a la document map of Microsoft Word (sorry...)
> >>
> >
> >We would maintain that.  Confluence does show a hierarchical view  
> >of the content in the wiki, but I'd think we'd want something  
> >sorted to our preference as a navigation bar.
> >
> >
> >>I had a look to the Confluence Web site and it seems that Confluence
> >>addresses all of these questions. However, I do not know the level of
> >>simplification that the platform delivers.
> >>
> >
> >I assume that was the long way of saying, "is it easy?" :-)  Yea,  
> >I've found it pretty easy so far.  I've worked with our existing  
> >wiki and never found it intuative.
> >
> >
> >>If the new tool box allows for an easier maintenance of the website,
> >>then we should use it. Based on the fact that you are recommending a
> >>migration, then it sounds reasonable to make this move.
> >>
> >
> >We aren't there yet, but I don't see any obstacles.  Been chatting  
> >with some of the infrastructure guys (who are very nice) and they  
> >think it's pretty cool.
> >
> >It's amazing how far you get with a simple "hello."
> >
> >
> >>Thanks David for making an old discussion a reality.
> >>
> >
> >Well, people want a website that isn't dead, they want an M4, and  
> >they want us certified.  Just trying to put some effort into the  
> >areas we've ignored.
> >
> >-David
> >
> >
> >>Gianny
> >>
> >>On 21/05/2005 11:10 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What do people think of having a website like this one?
> >>>
> >>>http://docs.openejb.org/Home
> >>>
> >>>Obviously, with a different look, but something with the same  
> >>>dynamic
> >>>content.
> >>>
> >>>The main content comes from Confluence.
> >>>The "Activity" section is dynamically created from Jira items.
> >>>The "News" section is from Confluence blog posts.
> >>>The "Recently Updated" section is a confluence macro.
> >>>The whole thing is put together with a modified version of  
> >>>Confluenza.
> >>>With mod_rewrite rules, it's still possible to have static conent.
> >>>
> >>>Seems to me like a good way to always have our activity show up  
> >>>on the
> >>>website, but wihtout having to do anything more than we are  
> >>>already doing.
> >>>
> >>>Any thoughts?
> >>>
> >>>-David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
> 

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