Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 82537 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2005 06:48:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Feb 2005 06:48:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19001 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2005 06:48:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-user-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 18984 invoked by uid 500); 9 Feb 2005 06:48:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: user@geronimo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@geronimo.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for user@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 44804 invoked by uid 99); 9 Feb 2005 01:34:40 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of bruce.snyder@gmail.com designates 64.233.170.205 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Cghex/nkv+8nMlntmqJuytGGcJXFPx2KPCnrB7WJQ2WgCWkXC/cBEEn4ueXEpSIViJlD8fnqWhF9kKLDAJVaUjYW7oxffbXwIHs++tt0dQGo/2NUbPQqvBKJhlU3cKIx3jlUnOdWqPhqdHSYGkjt0WIaRGGsnCweiRg+W7c0KHY= Message-ID: <7b3355cb050208173450ca2c44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:34:36 -0700 From: Bruce Snyder Reply-To: Bruce Snyder To: user@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: ANN: Geronimo 1.0-M3 Release In-Reply-To: <1107911308.3067.23.camel@saxon.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <420840CD.4070202@bannister.us> <20050208050857.GB16584@isis.visi.com> <42084FA7.5060308@bannister.us> <0437e454421b234db74acbe79bb62436@gluecode.com> <20050208073711.GA26117@isis.visi.com> <1107911308.3067.23.camel@saxon.local> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:08:28 +1300, Chris Dodunski wrote: > I'm pleased to hear that you are in 'go-go-go' mode. As someone who has > used and supported Apache open source software for years, I was rapt > back in 2003 to hear of the Geronimo project. So I subscribed to the > Geronimo mailing list, to keep up-to-date with progress. > > Admittedly, I was beginning to have my doubts, based on your rarely > changing front page, and the quiet nature of the mailing list. > > May I be so bold as to enquire whether you expect to have a first > production release available anytime soon? I mean, is present activity > mostly to do with attaining certification, rather than primary > development work? First, I'm going to reuse Jeremy's response to a similar question earlier in this thread because it drives right to the heart of the matter: > One challenge is that we are in heavy lets-get-this-thing-certified mode and unfortunately we are > not allowed to describe where we are in that curve. Needless to say, progress is being made. This explains the lack of changes to http://geronimo.apache.org/ and the lack of discussion on the dev@ mailing list at the moment. My real response to anyone who sees a need that's not being filled is to CONTRIBUTE! There is tons of work to be done and not just writing code. Anyone can contribute by creating how-tos on the wiki, by writing tests for code and obviously the web site could stand to be updated. But that's only the start of it. I'm sure that other committers can attest to many other forms of contribution that we need. What I'm really saying is turn your criticisms into constructive ones and help out. Geronimo is truly community based and what we need are more community memebers. Without an active and thriving community, Geronimo will not succeed. Please join us in making this a success. Bruce -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E