On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:45 AM David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:
> +1 for going forward
> Note that I also totally understand Davids concerns about the public perception about Geronimo and that people still think we talk about the G-Server.
> To mitigate this problem I pushed forward with retiring the GServer part and move the Geronimo project to become an umbrella for Enterprise Java Components. And of course if the VOTE succeeds, then we will quickly also pimp the geronimo.a.o site to reflect the EOL state of GServer.
> @David, is that fine for you?

I’ll be honest and say I feel a bit steam rolled.  The “is this ok with you” sent 5 minutes after the vote already started.  Vote closed sharply at 72 hours almost to the minute.  I was home in WI on labor day weekend visiting family for the first time in 2 years.

I'm a bit confused.  Which vote are you referring to?  The decision to retire Geronimo Server did close that weekend, but that feels very straight forward, were you saying we shouldn't have retired it?

We've never voted on a name for Geronimo Config. If you want, we can run that vote.  But short of that, I'm not sure there's more we could vote on for this subject.  I'll also share a bit more of my view point.

- No to XBean, for reasons mentioned in the other thread.
- Yes, we should find a more creative name than Config for the project.
- I lean towards supporting Mark's POV on this more than anything, since Config is really something he started.

In all my years at Apache I’ve never closed a vote that sharply especially when I know there are concerns.

It is clear I am the odd man out, however, and do not want to stand in the way the way of anyone’s fun.

What I ask is the same in return.  I ask you politely to not block attempts on the TomEE side to create sub-projects.  I think everyone should be allowed to have the fun they want to have.  Anatole has’t come and tried to shutdown Geronimo config.  I haven’t attempted to go to OWB and shut down Meecrowave.  If there are people excited and willing to work on something on the TomEE side, please don’t try to shut it down and redirect it to Geronimo.

I’ll contribute to what I can over on this side of the fence and think the change is positive.  I don’t however agree that other projects shouldn’t also have similar fun.