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From Romain Manni-Bucau <>
Subject Re: Discuss: Move Geronimo to Attic
Date Thu, 09 Mar 2017 07:15:27 GMT
A valid point is activity related to G happens elsewhere, However elsewhere
is not "tomee" which would make things simple to move but A, B, C so
shutting down G is likely the easiest solution for G itself but also the
worse for all its dependent projects - and ASF consistency since G is now
seen as the owner of specs, xbean etc....Today G is the result of
communities and I don't see it as a bad thing even if not common @ASF. It
allows new interactions with sometimes completely different area of
knowledge which is actually great and can't happen elsewhere IMHO (the dead
of G would mean fork per project probably).

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2017-03-09 5:13 GMT+01:00 Matt Hogstrom <>:

> I’ve monitored G for several years since my departure.  For me, JEE is not
> my main area of focus and as such, I’ve invested little time in the project
> apart from reading the e-mail threads.  This is a community decision and
> posting the discussion to dev@ is the right venue.
> As an inactive member I don’t have a strong vote, but, my observation is
> that most of the community has moved on and there is little activity.  If
> those that are still active want to keep going then God’s speed.
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> On Mar 9, 2017, at 08:47, Jason Dillon <> wrote:
> On March 8, 2017 at 10:44:45 AM, Mark Struberg ( wrote:
> Alan, I understand that you don't want to put much more energy into this
> project. That is totally understandable and fine.
> But while you are PMC chair you still cannot declare that the project is
> dead as long as there are enough PMC members still active to keep the
> project going.
> Mark, I agree with Alan and Kevan, though put into my own words I think
> the project and community is no longer viable (and has not been for a
> while).  I do believe there are still useful aspects to the project, but I
> don’t think its enough to leave on its own.
> We can certainly wait for more PMC members to chime in if they are still
> monitoring.  As Jeff recommended I’m including the private@ list for PMC
> folks that may not be paying as much attention to the dev@ list.
> Before we dump the project I suggest we start with an analysis of where we
> are right now.
> What about starting look into
> .) Who is still active and willing to continue Geronimo as a ee-commons
> project?
> So far I’ve not really seen anyone over the past days of communication
> about this.  But we’ll see.
> —jason
> .) Which project parts of the project are of some shared interest and
> might be good to get some maintenance love and some realistic chance that
> this is gonna happening?
> I can’t speak for the others, but I have zero interested in putting any
> love in to any of what is presently here.
> I will defer to others to explain if they feel otherwise, though I do
> recall some chatter on private@ but will probably need those folks to
> re-post to dev@ to include that discussion.
> —jason

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