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From Werner Keil <>
Subject Re: Configuration for Java SE and Java EE JSR
Date Fri, 15 Jul 2016 07:31:06 GMT

Thanks for the feedback. I know how the likes of those at Oracle would (or
will) respond to this who also are half-way entangled between legal and
development. E.g. Jim Wright, who told JSRs like the one I lead with others
to use Apache 2.0 then only to declare the Apache license was incompatible
with OpenJDK and the JCP ;-|

Also John who has been helpful and very clear about Apache's legal views
and requirements towards Tamaya will know best, if it tolerates a fork of
Geronimo in the way Mark created it. I know, when former committers to
DeviceMap created a similar fork on GitHub they were told they may do so,
but not call it"org.apache" either.

I hope you guys can settle differences and work constructively together,
both at Apache, JCP or elsewhere.


Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR 363 Co Spec Lead |
Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer

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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Anatole Tresch <> wrote:

> Hi all
> Folks, calm down a bit. Neverthess what I really dislike, is
> 1) that after so much work done, and neither Mark nor Romain being actively
> participating on the project the last months you raise your own initiative
> without involving the other people here.
> 2) That the whole Tamaya project is too bis for a JSR is clear,
> nevertheless the API part may be still small enough  (it is smaller than
> the money JSR...). This was clearly stated from the start, just remember
> this.
> 3) That you start your initiative outside of Tamaya, indirectly
> damaging/ignoring the work done so far.
> So, please collaborate with the guys here on the project, instead of
> running your own thing. Without joining our forces things probably will not
> be successful at all, which would be huge damage. There is much more
> politics involved that you can ever imagine, ignoring that point is simply
> naive IMO.
> And the scope discussion basically is something to be taken within a JSR,
> if we have one running...
> Thanks, J
> Anatole
> 2016-07-15 2:07 GMT+02:00 Werner Keil <>:
> > It really makes a "People's Front of Judea" or maybe rather say "People's
> > Front of JCP" impression here;-)
> >
> > Werner
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> --
> *Anatole Tresch*
> PPMC Member Apache Tamaya
> JCP Star Spec Lead
> *Switzerland, Europe Zurich, GMT+1*
> * <> *
> *Twitter:  @atsticks, @tamayaconf*

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