Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9382D17307 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 07:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20552 invoked by uid 500); 7 Apr 2015 07:26:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 20487 invoked by uid 500); 7 Apr 2015 07:26:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 20476 invoked by uid 99); 7 Apr 2015 07:26:45 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 07:26:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.138.91.123] (HELO nm30-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.123) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 07:26:20 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s2048; t=1428391557; bh=k8tX32VaBeB1+eqnb21zUD4FD1YN15fIeOSmO20FZFg=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To:From:Subject; b=qOUODcl+jy41QOSyx7BF5691sYbVMWT+z06Yh9ov9ZqaM/dmWErmQvD8MlzSGrEhcqsLI/Wjy07adLSPW1ylhFHoxoc7GtHS4xTdQzZWh+Pl7YE+xRuo4j+zeq26LbW7yZ5P9XGEx0S3AnGjkUKkYbVLN13SbtDZaFXRLMHopXcjMuRYgWt1bCA6HKELOqpUoTHRghkErucuFKYx/hd2Wkqrw+8aNKeNe+wLIl5ev/e/sjQD2S1trJbt+okxeYR9ltOpvtoXRZMYVp213193tSM+PQcghuGIJGf7w0a6aYNjLojE0xfLXAke5f2ykRR9YjdQ1k0i7fcalKkc81c39Q== Received: from [98.138.100.112] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2015 07:25:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.128] by tm103.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2015 07:25:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2015 07:25:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 323027.74515.bm@smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: FCs6PbsVM1kX7ZfqLQ3C_sQziivr3ycFppCGUFOQf6bFzkd xZ5182d2GddtLxYkElfAvpAQqphpOzW9DIbgPivWjmxl.EwDpUqFRU1HHXLc JwP5YGrhK3gfIMkbX6teYr7s1kQfQEl482tGHiUj.pb5M3mdKWp0lUTyDsfC hxaTN9jKA7NstfZbefBZtLs44qTFQVfyj8jEByMM2PRhMfpmpbAfjzULlHQH VrYOyN7VfgATvuJqFMVfOjlOZZA2nhpiHIKwRezvcBezCrMsEFGMb4BzDXnv 6T47ETSIh6hHgLQHX6.Io.nWNtFqdk9BGaMX7wWpdJxvfEyBP2qJeFswl3mI OjF8bFRtWTWScrp81ECHbHALxyu3j.KTAvOb41YWWaABxYGZMQExbNJaFlaU jau1dExJevvk2uAoZFbO269gOck_Vpafd8C9HZrGaw7rUryHBg.s49ZeqxHs Ae5E1qhXbRc_GYikMVP3Y9OTk2GwgDmYvZDf5D9iX6dt._xdlZ1U_XogeBQL IDOa66KOLJ6OM.kdaC6HyGMg6PInmxiGDM0PcMwUFcylRr_pOc6d6fYDXCy9 wTdc2Ccho72hGK3veqoYR9oe1.kB20TdDye3Kh_VDF7A4EnEJA8H7rOwAzU2 DyN_XQWrG4FSZD7A1nTcFbo9xrxYhpLW0HF0VZuN6Y1Xo69bbGPW0ruKtbpZ q60YqCEE7TAk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 81dhI.iswBBq7boyzRoOX6xuRIe8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: Board report time 2015-04 From: Mark Struberg In-Reply-To: <97FC9A1D-5BE9-4BA8-A7AA-C1068552FB86@toolazydogs.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:25:54 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5C2E1AF8-83D8-4CA3-B533-866F61B01F14@yahoo.de> References: <9F12AD9D-547C-4934-9E6B-E146169A4E3C@yahoo.de> <97FC9A1D-5BE9-4BA8-A7AA-C1068552FB86@toolazydogs.com> To: geronimo-dev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org It=E2=80=99s not only the spec-api stuff. There are also many other things like xbean, geronimo-jta, javamail, = etc. It=E2=80=99s basically a commons-EE atm. If you talk about a reboot then I wonder what you had in mind. There is = TomEE which takes the really lightweight approach. And having two = implementations providing the same doesn=E2=80=99t make sense. At least = not if there are exactly the same people involved=E2=80=A6 Should the Geronimo-Server focus on OSGi? That is what made the big = difference so far. No clue otherwise. LieGrue, strub > Am 07.04.2015 um 08:10 schrieb Alan D. Cabrera : >=20 > I agree, we should start moving our focus. >=20 > When you speak of #2, what bits do you speak of? The glue that = assembles the various JSR implementations of the JEE spec? >=20 > I wonder if we should start a total re-write. We=E2=80=99ve learned a = thing or two since this project started and the current Zeitgeist for = server software has moved on. >=20 > I think it=E2=80=99s an exciting time to take a fresh look at Geronimo = and to =E2=80=9Cre-imagine=E2=80=9D it. If you all agree, what to keep = and what to re-write?=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Alan >=20 >> On Apr 6, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: >>=20 >> Txs Alan! >>=20 >>=20 >> I think we should probably move our focus finally? The Geronimo = project basically consists of 2 different things. >> 1.) the Geronimo EE server >> 2.) all the rest ;) >>=20 >> 2 is doing really fine. 1 is worrying. Or are there any significant = people interested in continueing with 1? >>=20 >> Should we reflect this in the report? >>=20 >> LieGrue, >> strub >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> Am 04.04.2015 um 20:36 schrieb Alan D. Cabrera = : >>>=20 >>> Here's my initial draft: >>>=20 >>> = https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxPMGT/Apache+Geronimo+Board= +Report+-+2015-04+-+April >>>=20 >>> If I missed something please let me know or go ahead and update the = page directly. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Alan >>>=20 >>=20 >=20