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Subject: Re: Accepting proposals regarding early git adoption
From: David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com>
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Hi Mark,

Your couchdb links don't seem to me to argue for or against what I was =
suggesting, other than pointing out that unless git project =3D=3D =
releasable subproject you'll have an impedance mismatch, which is what I =
was trying to point out and avoid.

The git docs http://book.git-scm.com/5_submodules.html certainly seem to =
indicate that my suggestion should work fine and when I suggested it on =
the aries list David Bosschart mentioned that JBoss has been using =
submodules in this way for a long time with great success.

What's your evidence that submodules won't work for this?

thanks
david jencks

On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:

> David PLEASE DONT SPLIT ALL INTO SINGLE GIT REPOS!
>=20
>=20
> This is a HUGE nightmare to maintain!
>=20
> You will NOT be able to just treat this nicely!
>=20
> Please go over and first read what I wrote on the OpenEJB dev list and =
what we wrote together on
> http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Git_At_Apache_Guide
>=20
> and especally on
>=20
> http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/SVNvsGIT
>=20
> Trust me, you don't want to inependently maintain 350 git repos!=20
>=20
> There will (to my knowledge) be NO sane way to check out the project =
in one go anymore!
>=20
> You could certainly move all specs into one GIT repo, all of geronimo =
into another, etc but having too many independent repos is _really_ a =
nightmare for each developer!
>=20
>=20
> LieGrue,
> strub
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com>
>> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
>> Cc:=20
>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accepting proposals regarding early git adoption
>>=20
>> Anyone can already use git locally, there are apache mirrors of most =
svn=20
>> projects and many project's committers expose a lot of =
work-in-progress on=20
>> github (e.g. karaf)
>>=20
>> See e.g. http://wiki.apache.org/general/GitAtApache
>>=20
>> This is asking for projects that would like to use git instead of svn =
for their=20
>> canonical apache repository.  While I enthusiastically use git almost =
all the=20
>> time including for almost all my geronimo work I think geronimo is =
too=20
>> complicated to be a useful guinea pig for git at this point.  I think =
it will=20
>> take a lot of thought and time to figure out how to divide up the =
geronimo=20
>> history into appropriately sized git projects.  For instance:
>>=20
>> - each spec is separately releasable so it's a separate git project.  =
Then=20
>> we need an aggretator project to build them all at once for =
convenience.  Same=20
>> for bundles.
>> - the server code was originally under cvs at root and only later =
moved under=20
>> server.  How will this history make it into git (this is probably =
solved already=20
>> but I haven't looked)
>>=20
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>=20
>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Jay D. McHugh wrote:
>>=20
>>> Is the idea for this to abandon SVN and move completely over to git?
>>>=20
>>> Or is it just to add git as a way for folks to manage their local =
copies of=20
>> the source?
>>>=20
>>> Jay
>>>=20
>>> On 11/29/2011 03:22 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>>>> Forwarding (with permission), in case there's interest within=20
>> Geronimo community.
>>>>=20
>>>> --kevan
>>>>=20
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>=20
>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer<joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Accepting proposals regarding early git adoption
>>>>> Date: November 28, 2011 8:28:17 AM EST
>>>>> To: Apache Infrastructure<infrastructure@apache.org>
>>>>> Reply-To: Joe Schaefer<joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>>>>>=20
>>>>> While many of you are aware of the ongoing "experiment/alpha=20
>> test"
>>>>> with git hosting for CouchDB, you may not be aware of the recent
>>>>> members@ discussion about git @ Apache, the result of which is to
>>>>> solicit proposals here for projects interested in adopting git =
now,
>>>>> rather than after the testing phase is over.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Any such projects you participate in should write a brief and =
civil
>>>>> proposal as to why we should select you for further git testing.
>>>>> Proposals should include statements of interest in assisting with
>>>>> the git hosting codebase and associated jira issues from named
>>>>> individuals on the project.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> We'll allow the remainder of the week to collect proposals=20
>> before
>>>>> deciding on who gets to go next.
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>=20