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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: Accepting proposals regarding early git adoption
Date Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:07:55 GMT
Hi Mark,

Your couchdb links don't seem to me to argue for or against what I was suggesting, other than
pointing out that unless git project == releasable subproject you'll have an impedance mismatch,
which is what I was trying to point out and avoid.

The git docs certainly seem to indicate that my
suggestion should work fine and when I suggested it on the aries list David Bosschart mentioned
that JBoss has been using submodules in this way for a long time with great success.

What's your evidence that submodules won't work for this?

david jencks

On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:

> This is a HUGE nightmare to maintain!
> You will NOT be able to just treat this nicely!
> Please go over and first read what I wrote on the OpenEJB dev list and what we wrote
together on
> and especally on
> Trust me, you don't want to inependently maintain 350 git repos! 
> There will (to my knowledge) be NO sane way to check out the project in one go anymore!
> You could certainly move all specs into one GIT repo, all of geronimo into another, etc
but having too many independent repos is _really_ a nightmare for each developer!
> LieGrue,
> strub
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Jencks <>
>> To:
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accepting proposals regarding early git adoption
>> Anyone can already use git locally, there are apache mirrors of most svn 
>> projects and many project's committers expose a lot of work-in-progress on 
>> github (e.g. karaf)
>> See e.g.
>> This is asking for projects that would like to use git instead of svn for their 
>> canonical apache repository.  While I enthusiastically use git almost all the 
>> time including for almost all my geronimo work I think geronimo is too 
>> complicated to be a useful guinea pig for git at this point.  I think it will 
>> take a lot of thought and time to figure out how to divide up the geronimo 
>> history into appropriately sized git projects.  For instance:
>> - each spec is separately releasable so it's a separate git project.  Then 
>> we need an aggretator project to build them all at once for convenience.  Same 
>> for bundles.
>> - the server code was originally under cvs at root and only later moved under 
>> server.  How will this history make it into git (this is probably solved already

>> but I haven't looked)
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Jay D. McHugh wrote:
>>> Is the idea for this to abandon SVN and move completely over to git?
>>> Or is it just to add git as a way for folks to manage their local copies of 
>> the source?
>>> Jay
>>> On 11/29/2011 03:22 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>>>> Forwarding (with permission), in case there's interest within 
>> Geronimo community.
>>>> --kevan
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer<>
>>>>> Subject: Accepting proposals regarding early git adoption
>>>>> Date: November 28, 2011 8:28:17 AM EST
>>>>> To: Apache Infrastructure<>
>>>>> Reply-To: Joe Schaefer<>
>>>>> While many of you are aware of the ongoing "experiment/alpha 
>> test"
>>>>> with git hosting for CouchDB, you may not be aware of the recent
>>>>> members@ discussion about git @ Apache, the result of which is to
>>>>> solicit proposals here for projects interested in adopting git now,
>>>>> rather than after the testing phase is over.
>>>>> Any such projects you participate in should write a brief and civil
>>>>> proposal as to why we should select you for further git testing.
>>>>> Proposals should include statements of interest in assisting with
>>>>> the git hosting codebase and associated jira issues from named
>>>>> individuals on the project.
>>>>> We'll allow the remainder of the week to collect proposals 
>> before
>>>>> deciding on who gets to go next.

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