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Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:57:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r942204 - in
 /geronimo/server/trunk/framework/configs/karaf-framework/src/main/distribution:
	unix-shell/bin/client unix-shell/bin/deploy unix-shell/bin/geronimo
	unix-shell/bin/karaf unix-shell/bin/setjavaenv.sh windows-text/bin/karaf.
From: Jarek Gawor <jgawor@gmail.com>
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
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On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:54 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote=
:
> Well, we've already confused all the 2.2 users who got used to starting g=
eronimo using the gsh script.

I don't think many people used gshell or gshell commands to start
geronimo. I think most of geronimo users use "geronimo" and "deploy"
scripts.

> I'd like to attract karaf users who are used to starting karaf with the k=
araf script. =A0One of my longer term goals is to make geronimo more and mo=
re into a bunch of stuff running on karaf. =A0So, I regard the various tomc=
at like geronimo scripts as legacy and deprecated.

Well, I think we should discuss this direction in the community first
before doing anything about it. Also, I don't know why we would need
to attract karaf users in the first place. I certainly don't want to
start geronimo server by executing "karaf" script or seeing "welcome
to karaf" type of messages after starting the server.
Karaf was a good starting point for Geronimo for the conversion to
OSGi but I don't think we have to completely rebase Geronimo on top of
karaf. So far we have been taking bits and pieces of karaf and
integrating it with Geronimo. I think that approach makes sense now.

Jarek