Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23797 invoked from network); 19 May 2010 20:33:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 19 May 2010 20:33:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 19008 invoked by uid 500); 19 May 2010 20:33:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 18959 invoked by uid 500); 19 May 2010 20:33:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 18952 invoked by uid 99); 19 May 2010 20:33:40 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 May 2010 20:33:40 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of kevan.miller@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.54] (HELO mail-gw0-f54.google.com) (74.125.83.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 May 2010 20:33:33 +0000 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11so2220096gwb.13 for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 13:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=HWyu/0ewqnSRFCmc72SHnvK6eh0Ln+07iwWeY7HP6LU=; b=UnEU9eg4dz9lAA4BisCLX44O/x3su8vDIFmWvmbb64oJpxl+4eL+IwR5AkXhwAyJnb tz5MUvP3KkjKeSTu+BE/6KS1yzGJTNm6W5HHssNoGHy+BWrPrhPXp+4VvHKm9FtaBnzd 82Hjo4zydQQU79cnU5Lyw7TsWQJ4XYp/aE67A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=AneO+HPMGgsddNKDEkvqhL8P99oPIb9278VLE9ouCFgerUE5AjTn1EWZ013zzaofhw Ytktvf6Gg8BKfk/B19xSiyX8CuOVQWIdvs2rTB4OF3jceOsmMT1YmqcEmclMlq0lqXAv XuhZkAgZJJhmVlpqAYvbOSn4d60mIn843S2TI= Received: by 10.101.132.14 with SMTP id j14mr10541809ann.143.1274301189806; Wed, 19 May 2010 13:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (cpe-075-189-199-238.nc.res.rr.com [75.189.199.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm5976961ywh.2.2010.05.19.13.33.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 19 May 2010 13:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Subject: Re: Runtime entity enhancement for OSGi applications From: Kevan Miller In-Reply-To: <4BF44711.5030503@apache.org> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 16:33:05 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4BF44711.5030503@apache.org> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) On May 19, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > Good summary Lin. >=20 > In the OpenJPA community, we've been telling users for awhile now not = to > use the runtime enhancement, as it has known deficiencies, and should > only be used for quick prototyping and never in production. >=20 > If we need to continue supporting this in Geronimo (for the developer > scenarios), then I'd go with #3 for now. Hmm. I'm confused, now. You don't mean the javaagent runtime ehancement = is deficient, do you? Perhaps we have a problem with terminology? --kevan=