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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:40:26 -0600
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Subject: Re: Fun with ears and osgi
From: Jay McHugh <jaydmchugh@gmail.com>
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Hello all,

This gets into a question that I have had about the OSGi-ification
goal of the server.

That is, how much are we trying to keep the internal architecture of
Geronimo hidden?  Are we looking to have a server that is able to
install any old Java EE apps and resources (that just happens to be
OSGi on the inside)?  Or, are we trying to build a server environment
where everyone 'knows' that it is OSGi and (if possible) builds their
applications taking that into account?

It seems like the direction we are going is the latter.

Am I seeing things correctly?

Jay

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Lin Sun <linsun.unc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wonder if ear should continue working as what what they were working
> before and would not be installed as bundles in OSGi framework. =C2=A0And
> if users want to leverage OSGi functions in ear, they would have to
> migrate their ear file to an Aries Application
> (http://incubator.apache.org/aries/applications.html).
>
> Lin
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:26 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wro=
te:
>> Working on the admin console I've run into the problem that ears most
>> naturally translate into more than one osgi bundle -- at least one bundl=
e
>> for each web module, maybe one per module.
>>
>> Right now the deployment system is putting the wars inside the car file,
>> just like in 2.2, but as bundles. =C2=A0It looks like we are generating =
sort of
>> reasonable metadata for the embedded bundles but there is certainly no w=
ay
>> to access them.
>>
>> I can think of several approaches here:
>>
>> 1. For now at least, just have one bundle per ear. =C2=A0This is probabl=
y just a
>> couple lines to change and should work for all reasonable apps.
>>
>> 2. modify the pax mvn url handler so it can deal with bundles hidden ins=
ide
>> bundles. =C2=A0This has the advantage that an ear is still a single arti=
fact but
>> is otherwise slightly weird.
>>
>> 3. modify geronimo to package the wars as entirely separate bundles from=
 the
>> main ear. =C2=A0Maybe we can use the war module name as the classifier.
>>
>> In the interests of getting something working quickly I will probably tr=
y
>> (1) first. =C2=A0I'm intrigued by (2) but would certainly appreciate som=
e
>> discussion before I spend much time on either (2) or (3)..... and maybe
>> someone has an even better idea.
>>
>> I assume there is a similar problem for app clients....
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>>
>