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From chi runhua <chirun...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Discussion]Re-org admin console
Date Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:33:26 GMT
If there is no objection, I'd like to file a JIRA to record the usability
improvements/enhancement for 3.0.

About the technical approach, Pluto or Felix web console, IMHO it's about
how to achieve these improvements, therefore we can discuss it in another
thread.  :-)



Jeff C

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Donald Woods <dwoods@apache.org> wrote:

> Agree that we need some usability improvements (I tried in the past but it
> was rejected....) but not for 2.2 if it is going to delay work on the 3.0
> server.
>
> Also, I wouldn't spend a lot of time rewriting existing portlets until we
> decide what the base admin console will be, as I think you'll end up at
> different implementation decisions/limitations if we use the Karaf admin
> console vs. Pluto 2....
>
>
> -Donald
>
>
> Shawn Jiang wrote:
>
>> No matter what technology we might  choose to implement console.  #1,2,3
>> metioned by Jeff are doable without large effort, and could bring a
>> considerable improvement on the usability of current console. I even think
>> we can get these done in G2.2.X but not only for G3.0.
>>
>> I suggest to open a JIRA to track the console usability issue while
>> keeping the console tech choosing discussion onoging.
>>
>> Comments ?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Donald Woods <dwoods@apache.org <mailto:
>> dwoods@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>    I'd like to have the discussion of "Do we use the Felix Admin
>>    Console vs. Pluto" first....
>>
>>    Personally, I think we need to focus on getting a Little-G minimal
>>    equivalent working on trunk first (which doesn't include any Admin
>>    Console) before we worry with all of the Console based plugins.
>>
>>
>>    -Donald
>>
>>
>>
>>    chi runhua wrote:
>>
>>        Hi all,
>>        Long time ago there was a discussion[1] on whether we could
>>        re-org admin console to improve user experiences for 2.2, which
>>        was cancelled for some reason, since we are now in the begining
>>        of big change of Geronimo architecture, I think it's a good
>>        opportunity that we bring this up and also for the coming 3.0
>>        release.
>>
>>         [1]
>>
>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Reorg-of-Admin-Console-for-2.2-td20628217s134.html
>>
>>        Here are couples of thoughts in my mind to improve the console:
>>        1. re-constructure the navigation tree to make it collapsible,
>>        the tree level should be less than 3;
>>        2. re-orginize the avaliable tree items into new groups, for
>>        this one I'd like to vote +1 for what Jack had proposed in the
>>        previous thread;
>>         + Servers
>>         + Application Server
>>          - Geronimo Kernel (put Information, Java System Info, Thread
>>        Pool and Shutdown portlets in the same page here)
>>          - Web Server
>>          - JMS Server
>>          - EJB Server
>>          - DB server
>>          - Repository
>>          - New server assembly
>>        + Applications
>>         - Deploy New (Suggest to merge in the plan creator, so that
>>        users can either choose to use an existing plan file, or create
>>        a new one using the wizard)
>>         - User applications (merge WAR, EAR and Client, maybe bundles
>>        in the 3.0?)
>>         - Server plugins
>>        + Resources
>>         - DB pools
>>         - JMS resources
>>         - JEE Connectors
>>         - Jar Aliases
>>        + Security
>>         - Users and Groups
>>         - Keystores
>>         - Certificate Authority
>>         - Security Realms
>>        + Monitoring and Troubleshotting
>>         - Monitoring
>>         - Logs
>>         - Debug Views
>>         3. re-construct the available portlets to improve embedded
>>        assistance information, for example, show breadcrum when user is
>>        working on a task; reduce in-line text on the current UI, and
>>        use hover-help or pop-up help page only when necessary etc...
>>        4. for the long list on the current UI such as system modules,
>>        only show the most frequently used ones, use locate/find to
>>        display more....
>>
>>        Any comments?
>>
>>        Jeff C
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shawn
>>
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