Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 75886 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2009 06:52:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Sep 2009 06:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12515 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2009 06:52:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 12410 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2009 06:52:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 12402 invoked by uid 99); 14 Sep 2009 06:52:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:52:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of genspring@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.180] (HELO mail-px0-f180.google.com) (209.85.216.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:52:24 +0000 Received: by pxi10 with SMTP id 10so2508638pxi.24 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oBmyo0RUycKf9aUe1HD8TL2CZBOJKVQxopkQTy6NTXs=; b=D4T2vop4HYt/+LDzHb9gtZPM40GCyq+CmEqkVUZaYr5sUdW7Cx0Qr27tGbT0JIuWs/ hAJ/MJFCTr8qKVWfZyFa83UVlJGQvfdn3gxiic1oNt5aD+JT6LJymErXC+pVHoUWo7+w QesxJiFOGaBBQjRDNqihNcuXfnwXnkzw+lZ98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fFdVhX2qa4YZzcgHBugS2A/ekK0KPYgDQiKdYisPOkN/7GE4ezNGJLk3+t77LeRoqs 6Uw8gYPohVVrdqZLYQ1Q4rwSvM/S3gH7gswsK/W6mvSuY1TXkV+HckFr/S5gkX/gz/Dl In4bmA9PlIk9W/JtqNVJ94ccUsi1Zxo5vY/z4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.143.19 with SMTP id q19mr900012rvd.17.1252911124529; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:52:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5e7fd1eb0909131856j15e5e6cbw43bbeeee12f140d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e7fd1eb0909131856j15e5e6cbw43bbeeee12f140d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:52:04 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What's the reason why didn't agent-car-jmx get shipped with geronimo server by default ? From: Shawn Jiang To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd229508345290473841ad2 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --000e0cd229508345290473841ad2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right, I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as "load=false". So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring agent. When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB free assembly easily without breaking the monitoring. Does anyone have any other comments ? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Jack Cai wrote: > So looks like it's a random choice... > > If there's no particular reasons (like performance etc.), I'd recommend > that we use JMX agent as the default instead of the EJB agent, as the latter > has a dependency on the EJB container. > > -Jack > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Shawn Jiang wrote: > >> Whenever a user wants to use jmx monitor, he/she needs to install >> agent-car-jmx plugin firstly. Why not to ship this plugin with geronimo >> while keep it "load=false" in config.xml by default ? >> >> IMO, this size of agent-car-jmx plugin is only 13Kb. It's not a problem >> to bundle it with geronimo server as long as we make it "load=false" by >> default. >> >> Any ideas ? >> >> -- >> Shawn >> > > -- Shawn --000e0cd229508345290473841ad2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right,=A0 I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as "= load=3Dfalse".=A0 So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring = agent.=A0

When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB fre= e assembly easily=A0 without breaking the monitoring.

Does anyone have any other comments ?

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Jack Cai <greensight@gmail.com> wrote:
So looks like it's a random choice...

If there's no particul= ar reasons (like performance etc.), I'd recommend that we use JMX agent= as the default instead of the EJB agent, as the latter has a dependency on= the EJB container.

-Jack



On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Shawn Jiang <genspring@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Whenever a user wants to use jmx monitor, he/she needs to install agent-car= -jmx plugin firstly.=A0=A0 Why not to ship this plugin with geronimo while = keep it "load=3Dfalse" in config.xml by default ?

IMO, thi= s size of agent-car-jmx plugin is only 13Kb.=A0=A0 It's not a problem t= o bundle it with geronimo server as long as we make it "load=3Dfalse&q= uot; by default.

Any ideas ?

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Shawn




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