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Subject: Re: What's the reason why didn't agent-car-jmx get shipped with
  geronimo server by default ?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:45:04 -0700
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On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Kevan Miller  
> <kevan.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:
>
> Right,  I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent as  
> "load=false".  So that the user will use JMX as default monitoring  
> agent.
>
> When the users do not need EJB, they can create a EJB free assembly  
> easily  without breaking the monitoring.
>
> Does anyone have any other comments ?
>
> Agreed that this would be more convenient for most users. I don't  
> recall any specific reason why agent-jmx wasn't included. Vaguely  
> recall that ejb support was developed first because MEJB support is  
> required per the EE spec.
> Does it mean that we still have to keep ejb agent on by default to  
> meet the EE spec ?

no, the monitoring is not part of the spec so we can use anything we  
want.

thanks
david jencks

>
> --kevan
>
>
>
> -- 
> Shawn


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Sep 14, 2009, =
at 8:41 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Kevan Miller =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kevan.miller@gmail.com">kevan.miller@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> <div class=3D"im"><br> On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Shawn Jiang =
wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: =
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> Right, &nbsp;I'm planing to ship both of them but mark ejb agent =
as "load=3Dfalse". &nbsp;So that the user will use JMX as default =
monitoring agent.<br> <br> When the users do not need EJB, they can =
create a EJB free assembly easily &nbsp;without breaking the =
monitoring.<br> <br> Does anyone have any other comments ?<br> =
</blockquote> <br></div> Agreed that this would be more convenient for =
most users. I don't recall any specific reason why agent-jmx wasn't =
included. Vaguely recall that ejb support was developed first because =
MEJB support is required per the EE spec.<br> </blockquote><div>Does it =
mean that we still have to keep ejb agent on by default to meet the EE =
spec ?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>no, the monitoring is =
not part of the spec so we can use anything we =
want.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div>david =
jencks</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <font color=3D"#888888"> <br> --kevan<br> =
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- =
<br>Shawn<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=

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