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From Shawn Jiang <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] to create a set of maven archetypes for applications running on geronimo ?
Date Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:50:36 GMT
>From my point of view, every current geronimo sample could be converted to a
archetype. So that the user just needs install maven and he could just type
a command like this:
mvn archetype:generate -DarcheTypeCatalog=

he will get a sample menu like this:
Choose archetype:
1: internal -> hello (geronimo sample web application project)
2: internal -> calculator-stateless-pojo (geronimo sample ejb project)
3: internal -> mdb (geronimo Message-Driven Bean sample project)
4: internal -> GBean(simple geronimo GBean project)
5: internal -> xxxx
6: internal -> xxxx
7: internal -> xxxx

Choose a number:  (1/2/3/4/5/6/7) 1: : 1

select "1" to create a hello sample project will bring him to a wizard like

Define value for geronimo_version: : 2.1.4
Define value for context_root: : hellocontext
Define value for groupId: : my.first.geronimo.web
Define value for artifactId: : helloApp
Define value for version:  1.0-SNAPSHOT: :
Define value for package:  my.first.geronimo.web: :
Confirm properties configuration:
geronimo_version: 2.1.4
context_root: hellocontext
groupId: my.first.geronimo.web
artifactId: helloApp
version: 1.0-SNAPSHOT
package: my.first.geronimo.web
 Y: : Y

notice the user could define which geronimo version he is using and defind
the context root when generating the application.  The two values will be
used to generate a geronimo-web.xml like this:

<web-app xmlns=""

       <!--some dependency on geronimo 2.1.4 here>



I can see following benefits by creating these kind of sample archetypes:

1, User does not need to install a subversion to get the samples or to
download the samples zip.
He just need to install a maven to get all kinds of samples whatever he

2, geronimo version could be provided at sample project generating time.
As I know, most of samples content does not change at all except those
geronimo version update.  To keep these "stable" samples to archetypes can
save the time to
maintain every samples per geronimo release.  (of course, for those unstable
samples, we still need to update them per geronimo release)

3, Other key properties in geronimo deployment plan could be provided at
sample project generating time.
This is helpful for user to understand the essential elements of geronimio
deployment plan.

Current maven archetype is using velocity template which is very powerful to
generate project contents based on user's input.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:41 AM, David Jencks <>wrote:

> On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Shawn Jiang wrote:
> Maven archetype is a powerful tools to make life easier when developers
> want to create a project from scratch.  Currently, Geronimo is using
> archetype to create new testsuite/assembly/plugin/ quickly.
> 1: local -> geronimo-archetype-testsuite (testsuite)
> 2: local -> geronimo-assembly-archetype (geronimo-assembly-archetype)
> 3: local -> geronimo-plugin-archetype (geronimo-plugin-archetype)
> 4: local -> xmlbeans-maven-plugin (xmlbeans-maven-plugin)
> Which can only help geronimo developers/contributors when they want to
> create their new testsuite/assembly/plugin.  There's no archetype for
> geronimo users who want to create their geronimo Apps/Assets easily from
> scratch.   I'm wondering if geronimo could provide a set of new archetypes
> for Apps/assets running in geronimo. Some initial candidates are:
> 1, war-geronimo-archetype
> A simple war which contains the geronimo deployment plan.
> 2, ear-geronimo-archtype
> A maven project that contains 4 modules:
>  1, a war module
>  2, a ear module
>  3, a ejb module
>  4, a client module.
> 3, datasource-geronimo-archtypes
> There should be many sub archtypes to create different datasources plan.
> 4, security-geronimo-archtypes
> There should be many sub archtypes to create different(properties/db/ldap)
> realms.
> 5, GBean-geronimo-archtype
> A simple GBean development archtype with two mode: normal/annotation
> Any comments ?
> I don't quite understand yet what these archetypes would provide.  The most
> plausible thing would be to add a "fill in the blanks" plan template.  I'm
> not sure an archetype is the best way to do this, but I'm certainly open to
> seeing how it works.
> Our existing plugin and assembly archetypes are rather obsolete and don't
> use the current archetype infrastructure.  I wonder if a more practical
> project would be to update especially the plugin archetype to figure out
> what kind of thing you are building a plugin for and include the appropriate
> plan template and add the appropriate dependencies and car-maven-plugin
> configuration.
> I guess if we could figure out how to this more or less the same logic
> could be used to modify an existing javaee maven project to insert the
> appropriate geronimo plan template in the appropriate directory.  I don't
> think that dupicating the war, ear, etc archetypes is likely to be worth the
> effort.
> Anyway I'd certainly like to know more about what you have in mind and am
> very glad someone else is thinking about maven archetype support!
> thanks
> david jencks
> --
> Shawn


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