Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 67522 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2009 20:14:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Feb 2009 20:14:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 46654 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2009 20:14:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 46599 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2009 20:14:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 46590 invoked by uid 99); 17 Feb 2009 20:14:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:14:46 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [76.13.13.44] (HELO smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com) (76.13.13.44) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:14:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 23044 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2009 20:14:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Macintosh.local) (dwoods@75.177.173.152 with plain) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2009 20:14:16 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7LnypG4VM1ngXSALXc3zb8dy2SiUq8.2lG1ogBL9PnvXSHH0lDORcBxot38Nt6TWeU5CfuVdN_ukjY2hTMKrFWfc70kHwiJGGKnB_ekDNLTUU47hPk8VxyZkDxLW4MBURRmvqCKKF.Q4QNub6maG24pr X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <499B1A97.8010709@apache.org> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:14:15 -0500 From: Donald Woods User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Make "framework" build the entire framework server References: <08985C45-FA3B-44DF-B2BE-903DBDE38C1F@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <08985C45-FA3B-44DF-B2BE-903DBDE38C1F@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Sounds worth the time to try it out. Two requests: 1) If this works, we publish the framework assembly instead of the two minimal assemblies to the Download page for 2.2, as this would allow users to build their own custom minimal server assembly (and of course some docs telling users how to create the old minimal assembly from this new framework assembly.) 2) If time permits, can we move or duplicate relevant testsuite modules into a new testsuite dir under either the framework dir or a new framework-testsuite dir, so that we can verify the basic framework cmdline scripts and installing plugins (like Jetty/Tomcat to make an equivalent minimal assembly)? -Donald David Jencks wrote: > I'd like to play around with trying to make gbeans less restrictive and > possibly some classloading ideas. This would be a lot easier if I had a > smaller project to deal with. So, I'd like to make it so that framework > is self contained and builds the entire framework server. I haven't > looked at this too closely recently but I think it involves: > > moving all or part of buildsupport into framework (at least > car-maven-plugin) > moving the framework plugingroup into framework > moving the boilerplate and framework assemblies into framework. > > I suggested this a few months back (sept 23 2008) and there were some > objections I didn't fully understand. Right now I'm sure this would > make my day to day development life a lot easier so if there are > objections I'd really appreciate knowing how specifically this would > make your day to day development life harder. > > thanks > david jencks > >