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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: Make "framework" build the entire framework server
Date Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:15:25 GMT

On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Donald Woods wrote:

> Sounds worth the time to try it out.
> Two requests:
> 1) If this works, we publish the framework assembly instead of the  
> two minimal assemblies to the Download page for 2.2, as this would  
> allow users to build their own custom minimal server assembly (and  
> of course some docs telling users how to create the old minimal  
> assembly from this new framework assembly.)

I'm neutral or slightly +0.1 on this idea.  I don't actually see how  
it relates to my proposal but if everyone agrees I'm fine with this  
> 2) If time permits, can we move or duplicate relevant testsuite  
> modules into a new testsuite dir under either the framework dir or a  
> new framework-testsuite dir, so that we can verify the basic  
> framework cmdline scripts and installing plugins (like Jetty/Tomcat  
> to make an equivalent minimal assembly)?

I like this idea.  For a few months now when I work on a plugin set  
(mconsole, activemq) I've included a custom server aseembly in the  
plugin group and added at least one integration test.  This has really  
helped speed up feature development.  IIUC you are proposing doing the  
same for framework.

david jencks

> -Donald
> David Jencks wrote:
>> I'd like to play around with trying to make gbeans less restrictive  
>> and possibly some classloading ideas.  This would be a lot easier  
>> if I had a smaller project to deal with.  So, I'd like to make it  
>> so that framework is self contained and builds the entire framework  
>> server.  I haven't looked at this too closely recently but I think  
>> it involves:
>> moving all or part of buildsupport into framework (at least car- 
>> maven-plugin)
>> moving the framework plugingroup into framework
>> moving the boilerplate and framework assemblies into framework.
>> I suggested this a few months back (sept 23 2008) and there were  
>> some objections I didn't fully understand.  Right now I'm sure this  
>> would make my day to day development life a lot easier so if there  
>> are objections I'd really appreciate knowing how specifically this  
>> would make your day to day development life harder.
>> thanks
>> david jencks

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