From dev-return-70005-apmail-geronimo-dev-archive=geronimo.apache.org@geronimo.apache.org Tue Dec 02 01:30:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48233 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 01:30:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 01:30:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 75072 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2008 01:31:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 75021 invoked by uid 500); 2 Dec 2008 01:31:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 75010 invoked by uid 99); 2 Dec 2008 01:31:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:31:08 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.136.44.63] (HELO smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.44.63) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:29:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 82228 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 01:30:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=ZQXBgKvEv31SEGMiE+YNY68LY9xJf0CjKbZKWuE2wGhv+P8LgSYqZN22Oc6PO8ilIynzf5Or6LbQ4e88WxapmZlGY1W2aHIxUra7DkRXRGnzQ7ShOCIzgB1wK+LO8KPi+EMqh0tfe5sDV7z+BBTafatiOSw+dEK4V49yB2LUZUY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.11.55.45?) (david_jencks@63.105.20.225 with plain) by smtp108.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 01:30:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ix1.WXgVM1kWep5AXiKdJBf60bLdra6YyTz_HcnSrUtndozp4iupsUU.1Sl5miPCI13D7HnKywm02JgOCIDfx.ZSIVLdk9NMv0ZxuvrT3DiBsRZX45N8i_jt7c3uyJ.RLFn1rC42Nm_vs5QM6IpSpcCxQb1FXBVIwq6hwvE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: <3D198CC6-2A6E-4C86-9197-52EC8E66A7BE@yahoo.com> From: David Jencks To: "Geronimo Dev List (JIRA)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Move monitoring console out of server to plugins? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:30:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org We've discussed at various times trying to make the server build more manageable by moving peripheral plugins out of the server/trunk/ pluings into plugins/trunk I'd like to start this by moving monitoring before 2.2. Any objections? We have a few options as far as including the console in actual server assemblies: 1. don't include it. 2. get the monitoring plugins to depend on say g 2.1.4 and include compatibility stuff so it also works on 2.2 when released 3. follow the following release process for 2.2: a. release framework. IMO this should include the maven plugins and framework assembly, but people argued when I suggested this svn organization before. b. release plugins, at an appropriate rate, including monitoring c. release the assemblies. I'm happy with any of these approaches or probably any others someone comes up with but slightly prefer (1) or (3). thanks david jencks