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From Jason Dillon <>
Subject Download link on the main page
Date Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:25:35 GMT
I think that the main G page ( ) is  
missing a rather large nice looking "Download" button.  I think it  
would fit really nicely under the big G logo.

IMO it would be good if this link took you directly to the latest  
releases download page, that being here right now:

And somewhat related the "Java EE 5 Certified" section for downloads  
seems a bit crunched up the by text on the right.  I've got a 30"  
display and a*reasonable* size browser screen and it still is hard to  

I'd like to see that "Apache Geronimo v2.1.3 have passed..." text  
below the table, above "Download Sample ..." which should really help:

  * * *

Anyways, its not like its hard to find Downloads, then under Latest  
Release -> Apache Geronimo v2.1.3 Release...

Its just that it seems like the *norm* for sites to include that big- 
ass overpowering "Download" button on the first page that users see to  
take them directly to the page where they get the good stuff.

Also, somewhat related... might confuse some users as to which  
distribution they should download... TAR or ZIP?  Jetty or Tomcat...  
JavaEE or Little... wtf... which one... okay screw it I'll go look at...

I know a lot of us know how to find what we want... and IMO the site  
is tailored to that (short of the icky formatting noted above, I had  
to read the thing a few times to find the right dist).  But is the  
site really for  you or me?  ie.... non-average joes (and no plumber  
comments here please)?  I don't think it is... the main goal besides  
providing a consistent navigable informative experience is to make it  
fricken simple for anyone to quickly grab a copy of G and play with it.

IMO the site right now doesn't do that... but I'd like to see it.  Say  
I'm a virgin user, heard about this cool free G-thing... so I go hit  
the website.  I really don't care about *anything* short of how do I  
download the *right* version, install it and start to play with it, so  
I can then go to my boss and say hey look at this cool stuff we can use.

  * * *

Basically, if we can make a Download button on the main page, which  
takes the user to an uber simple page with the link to the dist they  
want, it could help a lot.  That page should have a link to the  
suggested download, and then a page to the current release page in  
case they want more options.

Can't decide if its jetty or tomcat?  Well make it random them, cause  
they both work the same... but IMO the added option just confuses  
people.  After they understand more by playing with it they will get  
that the web stuff is pluggable or they won't care and keep using  
whatever we suggested (randomly) for them.

  * * *

Confluence driven site does present some issues here, but we can  
create a custom usermacro to handle so Its definitely possible.

Okay... me shuts up now... hope y'all didn't tune out... I think this  
is important, even though my ranting style might be hard for some to  



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