From dev-return-68651-apmail-geronimo-dev-archive=geronimo.apache.org@geronimo.apache.org Wed Oct 08 16:43:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 446 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2008 16:43:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Oct 2008 16:43:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 97516 invoked by uid 500); 8 Oct 2008 16:43:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 97465 invoked by uid 500); 8 Oct 2008 16:43:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 97454 invoked by uid 99); 8 Oct 2008 16:43:19 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:43:19 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.136.44.59] (HELO smtp104.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.44.59) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:42:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 92406 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2008 16:42:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer; b=H44b+NMeAjAbgOP2zATGSRzjqizrOPtEmxVuZVZAjLVdYdbA0t3PZl8ZCcS3lZIiTwwqMPIRRh+qrIttlcjtz4nCNaDL8fqpU2ruC4Pcj1mjffDp4UmunLawdqvVGf2aX9Pc3OJL1IBWSRTT2kE6uIZ9WBvQu574quEVfoJkkOg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.11.55.45?) (david_jencks@63.105.20.225 with plain) by smtp104.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2008 16:42:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: IE8CP_IVM1nl.NiOJ9xP09j0C.yjTXuvk7h76gJ_7LL1N49TWET5ByE6CjAU2LrRHxNhbq3ZB3sOWE1ZHb48tfWqHd68S16frVIsQC6CuqsqT7mFiybk2hMraOaIH1ZsGse2bisrHJfb1t2dPW3H194a3nfp4a3GhcQ9R9JifrMtJW7NcxPPvQtW6tg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: From: David Jencks To: dev@geronimo.apache.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: svn commit: r702586 - in /geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty: ./ pom.xml src/ src/main/ src/main/history/ src/main/history/dependencies.xml src/main/plan/ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:42:49 -0700 References: <20081007191000.9F73A23888AF@eris.apache.org> <48EC22F4.6030509@apache.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I'm also getting worried that the plugin groups are starting to duplicate the plugins and wondering if the concept is providing significant value beyond the framework plugin group. Also, I think that the current jms console stuff is unlikely to survive in anything like its current form for activemq 5. The last time I talked with the amq developers they indicated pretty strongly that trying to reconfigure a running broker was not safe and that editing the broker (xbean-spring) plan and restarting was the desired approach. thanks david jencks On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Lin Sun wrote: > These are the console plugin groups, basically it provides the > required console function for the javaee5 assemblies. I think the > list suggested the following profiles a while back ago: > JMS > EJB > Web Services > Admin Console > ... > > Also, I need the console plugin group to construct the javaee5 plugin > groups/assemblies. > > Regarding activemq-console-xxx, my initial thought was to include it > in the JMS plugin group, but I realize that you are working on the > optional console and people may not want the JMS console function when > they want JMS function (for example, there is one user trying to add > JMS on top of little G). When you have your optional console stuff > in, you can remove the optional ones from the console plugin group. > > Plugin groups are basically groups of plugins for users to easily > understand and consume them. They can be used in the following ways: > 1. custom server assemblies > 2. G server assemblies (framework, javaee5) > 3. install plugin group as regular plugin. For example, a user should > be able to install the JMS plugin group in little G to get little G + > JMS environment. > > Lin > > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Donald Woods > wrote: >> Why are we recreating the existing console-jetty and console-tomcat >> as yet >> another plugin? >> >> Also, why are you including optional console plugins like >> activemq-console-xxx, which should only be included if the ActiveMQ >> plugins >> are installed? By including it here, you're basically pulling in >> the JMS >> plugins. >> >> I'm starting to reconsider why we need plugingroups, if we're going >> to have >> to recreate dozens of existing plugins just in a slightly different >> format >> just so we can include them in a special view just for custom server >> assemblies.... >> >> >> >> -Donald >> >> >> linsun@apache.org wrote: >>> >>> Author: linsun >>> Date: Tue Oct 7 12:09:59 2008 >>> New Revision: 702586 >>> >>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=702586&view=rev >>> Log: >>> Add the console-jetty plugin group >>> >>> Added: >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/ >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml (with >>> props) >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/ >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/ >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> (with props) >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/plan/ >>> >>> Added: geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml >>> URL: >>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml?rev=702586&view=auto >>> >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> ==================================================================== >>> --- geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml (added) >>> +++ geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml Tue >>> Oct 7 >>> 12:09:59 2008 >>> @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> +>> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" >>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 >>> http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd"> >>> + >>> + 4.0.0 >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugingroups >>> + plugingroups >>> + 2.2-SNAPSHOT >>> + >>> + >>> + console-jetty >>> + car >>> + Geronimo Plugin Group :: Admin Console Jetty >>> + >>> + >>> + This plugin group provides Admin Console Jetty >>> functionality. >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.configs >>> + ca-helper-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + agent >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + mconsole-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + activemq-console-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + debugviews-console-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + plancreator-console-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + plugin-console-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + sysdb-console-jetty >>> + ${version} >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> + >>> >>> Propchange: geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> svn:eol-style = native >>> >>> Propchange: geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> svn:keywords = Date Revision >>> >>> Propchange: geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> svn:mime-type = text/xml >>> >>> Added: >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> URL: >>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/dependencies.xml?rev=702586&view=auto >>> >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> ==================================================================== >>> --- >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> (added) >>> +++ >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> Tue Oct 7 12:09:59 2008 >>> @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@ >>> + >>> +>> xmlns:ns2="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/attributes-1.2" >>> xmlns="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/plugins-1.3"> >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugingroups >>> + console-jetty >>> + 2.2-SNAPSHOT >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + plancreator-console-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + sysdb-console-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + activemq-console-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + plugin-console-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.configs >>> + ca-helper-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + debugviews-console-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + mconsole-jetty >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> + org.apache.geronimo.plugins >>> + agent >>> + car >>> + >>> + >>> >>> Propchange: >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> svn:eol-style = native >>> >>> Propchange: >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> svn:keywords = Date Revision >>> >>> Propchange: >>> geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ >>> dependencies.xml >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> svn:mime-type = text/xml >>> >>> >>> >>