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From Donald Woods <>
Subject Re: Samples - Why are the tomcat/jetty prerequisites not set?
Date Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:39:04 GMT
As a "user" I hate how the Plugin portlet and cmdline show plugins that 
can't/shouldn't be installed on my Tomcat JEE5 or Minimal server....

Seems that we're confusing/complicating everyone's life for a framework 
assembly scenario that should be handled in the code:
- If a plugin lists tomcat or jetty as a depend, but the server has the 
opposite container installed, then it should not be installable.
- If a plugin lists tomcat or jetty as a depend, but the server has 
neither installed, then the plugin is installable.

The same logic would be applied to axis2 and cxf depends.


David Jencks wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
>> OK, it's because of wanting to install on a framework assembly....
>> Guess we're stuck with this for 2.1, but never liked this approach, 
>> especially given we are providing Tomcat and Jetty versions of each 
>> sample and most do truly prereq a web container...
>> I disagree with this approach for 2.2 since we'll have plugin profiles 
>> that users should be using instead of starting with the framework 
>> assembly.
> what? why does the existence of the framework profile change the 
> reasoning?  You need enough of a server to install plugins, then 
> everything else required for the app is pulled in.  The framework 
> profile defines this minimal server.  The framework profile just makes 
> it easier to assemble servers, it doesn't change how to add stuff to a 
> server.  I don't see any relevance of any of the other profiles since 
> they are designed to help with assembling servers with specific 
> capabilities, which is irrelevant to the process of installing plugins 
> into a frameworks server.
> not sure how coherent this is but I don't understand what you are saying 
> at all.
> thanks
> david jencks
>> -Donald
>> Joe Bohn wrote:
>>> We had this discussion a while ago (along with a lot of other samples 
>>> issues).  The results were summarized in the wiki status page: 
>>> the thread where it was discussed:
>>> Joe
>>> Donald Woods wrote:
>>>> Seems that only one of the samples has the tomcat/jetty prerequisite 
>>>> set.  Why?  Shouldn't we include this setting so the Plugin portlet 
>>>> will only allow the appropriate samples to be installed?
>>>> -Donald

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