Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 44038 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2008 21:05:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Aug 2008 21:05:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 36927 invoked by uid 500); 7 Aug 2008 21:05:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 36437 invoked by uid 500); 7 Aug 2008 21:05:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 36425 invoked by uid 99); 7 Aug 2008 21:05:06 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:05:06 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [76.13.13.41] (HELO smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com) (76.13.13.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:04:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 79062 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2008 21:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drwoods.local) (drw_web@75.177.164.142 with plain) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2008 21:04:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: d9pOY2cVM1lsg6UUuqK_moS9LQFm2KnH6.97EUEtL_mQBqFycRaap4eizsTtr6f2Wt8o0OSYTmG2PjyENIUadF.4tvtHOv84rDbRPgl7zIjpOd6HhYKxfKHpbFvLLvpKl_odavM9PZAjXjWdGUwl.qSM X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <489B635F.4000801@apache.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:04:31 -0400 From: Donald Woods User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Documentation of new 2.2 features in current wiki? References: <5eb405c70807291406l64a08024w439ff11ad8f2e12c@mail.gmail.com> <489710C3.4040102@apache.org> <489B0E87.8080000@earthlink.net> <5eb405c70808070843m48bb43fmc22617d260840229@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5eb405c70808070843m48bb43fmc22617d260840229@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080607090909010304000406" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080607090909010304000406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agree. -Donald Jarek Gawor wrote: > IMHO, the 2.2 space must be seeded from the 2.1 space. The question is > just when to do it. That's why I suggested creating 2.2 content under > some temporary space. Once we have the actual 2.2 space setup (from > 2.1 content) then we can move these new pages into 2.2 space. It will > be a lot easier to move just a few pages of the new content then merge > lots of pages of 2.1 content into 2.2 space. > > Jarek > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Joe Bohn wrote: >> I agree in principle with creating a new location for 2.2 features to be >> documented. My only concern was that we are consistent so that the >> documentation will be easy for users to find and easy to integrate when we >> eventually do a mass merge from 2.1 to 2.2. >> >> So, I created a new space for 2.2 documentation to provide a consistent >> structure and to capture the enthusiasm to document 2.2 changes. I seeded >> it with a top level structure that matches our 2.1 doc but no actual >> content. You can find it here: >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC22/documentation.html >> >> I suggest that we create new content for 2.2 under this page for now: >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC22/what-changed-in-22.html >> .... I chose the current name to match what we had in 2.1. >> >> If a particular change has broad implications for documentation that is >> already available in 2.1, we can copy current 2.1 content into 2.2 and >> modify it accordingly. >> >> As David pointed out earlier, we do not have the ability to automatically >> merge the 2.1 content into the 2.2 content at a later time using this >> approach. Any merge will be a manual effort. The only alternative I am >> aware of would be to seed the new 2.2 space with the complete current 2.1 >> content. However, that brings about some maintenance issues of keeping >> things in sync and doesn't encourage 2.2 updates. When we last discussed >> this for 2.1 we decided to start with the empty space and so I took the same >> approach for this release. >> >> I hope this provides something that will serve as a good place for the 2.2 >> content for now. If we decide later that we should have started with a >> complete copy of 2.1 we can always create a copy and merge the new 2.2 >> documents back into the 2.1 copy. However, for now this at least provides a >> place we can use and it is obvious to our users where they can find 2.2 >> documentation. >> >> Joe >> >> >> Donald Woods wrote: >>> Agree. We could just create a "New Features in 2.2" page and people can >>> create child pages to it for their new features as they are integrated into >>> trunk.... >>> >>> >>> -Donald >>> >>> >>> Jarek Gawor wrote: >>>> I think it would be nicer to create pages with 2.2 specific content >>>> somewhere under http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDEV/index.html for now. >>>> Once we have 2.2 documentation space setup we can move the pages >>>> around. Or at least I don't think we should mix 2.2 content with 2.1 >>>> content. >>>> >>>> Jarek >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM, David Jencks >>>> wrote: >>>>> I've been playing around with openid and jaspi and would like to write >>>>> up >>>>> some documentation before I forget how it all works :-) >>>>> >>>>> I don't think we have enough people interested in documentation to >>>>> pursue >>>>> anything but the easiest-to-write path in documentation. In particular >>>>> I >>>>> think more than one active copy of the docs is asking for disaster. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to suggest that feature documentation should generally start >>>>> with a >>>>> "starting with version xxx" comment. So, I'd put the openid/jaspi >>>>> documentation in the current (2.1) wiki with a "starting with 2.2" >>>>> notice. >>>>> Obviously there's the problem that the wiki has the 2.1 version in its >>>>> name. I don't know if a wiki can have its name changed but don't regard >>>>> this >>>>> as critical. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to start doing this pending comments and better ideas. At the >>>>> rate I write I don't think I'll be causing significant damage before we >>>>> have >>>>> time for a full discussion :-) >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> david jencks >>>>> >>>>> >> > --------------ms080607090909010304000406 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJbTCC AxEwggJ6oAMCAQICEGE7sdOcvnyCHwhd2kbEvQ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDQwMjE5MjcwOVoX DTA5MDQwMjE5MjcwOVowZTEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYRZHJ3X3dlYkB5YWhvby5jb20xIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWR3b29kc0Bh cGFjaGUub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAlylHzveM+GK2U2Ib +9wzj8Ga4z4zK/wmMGbRmJ4IM9W4HBGntekfCQfwkb0K/qD8QZcQY4HfyfxIkIA+TaYy5/nL 1wWvH73Oc1HMT7Fyc7Vfkewpi1KZoxLzAdr358uAi5TEYxOoUvCxLoI+BpM1655EDyRRlD8e dK3zemHv+gRoWkb11QmfFt6putMBi0VZZ3k2rJZRDXQDjMGOu/GPR1XcV+ah43Z/+vnPWMd+ NSqV9IUC7UWkL5kwhGpWOtgZg0tabr2xj79y13bG6fDQjwRKgSlN98wZjMQLx4MZPtn3lT1C zCOxsqjr86MGePVk2QXNvbCkxun6EHezeKtA/wIDAQABo0EwPzAvBgNVHREEKDAmgRFkcndf d2ViQHlhaG9vLmNvbYERZHdvb2RzQGFwYWNoZS5vcmcwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQUFAAOBgQAitedgxXImBqxgW9UftLIVMaIzfKgnue/Q4GvPS0J6ucqyGB4l5f50aKEB kuLfajXpC/ZrScinLNFi8ZvMw6KCUaiWjAwupl5KiF7cWh93kNFihD2SM+M8+hFf9kVyGMxs 49FAn3yoP9QVCQtq4C1sixTfayi4rFRvRMlPRcYqdjCCAxEwggJ6oAMCAQICEGE7sdOcvnyC Hwhd2kbEvQ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0 ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVl bWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDQwMjE5MjcwOVoXDTA5MDQwMjE5MjcwOVowZTEfMB0G A1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRZHJ3X3dlYkB5 YWhvby5jb20xIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWR3b29kc0BhcGFjaGUub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAlylHzveM+GK2U2Ib+9wzj8Ga4z4zK/wmMGbRmJ4IM9W4 HBGntekfCQfwkb0K/qD8QZcQY4HfyfxIkIA+TaYy5/nL1wWvH73Oc1HMT7Fyc7Vfkewpi1KZ oxLzAdr358uAi5TEYxOoUvCxLoI+BpM1655EDyRRlD8edK3zemHv+gRoWkb11QmfFt6putMB i0VZZ3k2rJZRDXQDjMGOu/GPR1XcV+ah43Z/+vnPWMd+NSqV9IUC7UWkL5kwhGpWOtgZg0ta br2xj79y13bG6fDQjwRKgSlN98wZjMQLx4MZPtn3lT1CzCOxsqjr86MGePVk2QXNvbCkxun6 EHezeKtA/wIDAQABo0EwPzAvBgNVHREEKDAmgRFkcndfd2ViQHlhaG9vLmNvbYERZHdvb2Rz QGFwYWNoZS5vcmcwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQAitedgxXImBqxg W9UftLIVMaIzfKgnue/Q4GvPS0J6ucqyGB4l5f50aKEBkuLfajXpC/ZrScinLNFi8ZvMw6KC UaiWjAwupl5KiF7cWh93kNFihD2SM+M8+hFf9kVyGMxs49FAn3yoP9QVCQtq4C1sixTfayi4 rFRvRMlPRcYqdjCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYT AlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UE ChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMg RGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqG SIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBa Fw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3Vs dGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNz dWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRw nd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn 8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJg t/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0 dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1Ud DwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A 9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH 1sYITq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggNkMIIDYAIBATB2MGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYD VQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQYTux05y+fIIfCF3a RsS9DzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3 DQEJBTEPFw0wODA4MDcyMTA0MzFaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBTUenUDr2K+aTLQJ6Jt6j/r niYckjBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMXgwdjBi MQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEs MCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEGE7sdOcvnyC Hwhd2kbEvQ8wgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMc VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFs IEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEGE7sdOcvnyCHwhd2kbEvQ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAE ggEAVfWWNPhRXHdD8gxtOQ7Gfvo4r6QG43rgnfWIVvsTsbvEmIXS0Njz+q4v5peeuFvvq3mC TLooLKtLf0gV1jssUdwm1dRaPmJ3oJmJwD6em33i7UScH0vbVAeUzRvNZNZl63694ClZYzd/ LCuSGplN9NIFeYd7tcdsamjgegkXbUg0BXxDDJjnCUXnzJJOnPeh5qvzLSTHV9oMXzT30X6v JBuUtinKERcw6S8SHJmixMB9qf7M07HDeS0Gb0+Bot6M+kroeZ+sDT3ChMPJkZNo5efinUVT qbQBLIYhNVZ4fBCx8xEHo3d8wZyCbSRKhnT5EoOngcTOm7dPjN3RMcjorAAAAAAAAA== --------------ms080607090909010304000406--