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From Kevan Miller <>
Subject Re: car-maven-plugin and <useTransitiveDependencies>true</useTransitiveDependencies>
Date Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:28:59 GMT

On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:03 PM, David Jencks wrote:

> On Aug 12, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Jarek Gawor wrote:
>> I think we should stop using
>> <useTransitiveDependencies>true</useTransitiveDependencies> in
>> car-maven-plugin. It's just pulling in too much stuff and it's hard  
>> to
>> control it (see
>> Looks like only ./framework/configs/gshell-* configs are using that
>> option.
> I've been considering this since I added the setting.  IMO it's just  
> revealing problems with our dependency management, not causing  
> them.  My goal is to use it everywhere.  Here's my half-baked plan:
> 1. make it so the c-m-p configuration can apply small tweaks to the  
> maven dependencies such as the import classes/services/all setting  
> rather than having to replace the entire maven dependencies set with  
> a near-copy.
> 2. develop some tooling to compare results with and without  
> useTransitiveDependencies
> 3. starting with framework, convert all the cars to  
> useTransitiveDependencies=true, adding <exclusions> and changing  
> scopes in dependencies as needed.
> 4. In server/trunk/plugins (and plugins) convert all out-of-plugin  
> dependencies to dependencies on cars.
> Anyone want to help with this?

Sounds like a recipe for including a bunch of stuff that we don't want  
or need...

Can you elaborate on why you think it's better to opt out, rather than  
opt in?

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