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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:11:06 +0800
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As mentioned in my last mail, maybe we can do more work on usability -

Usability
  - revamped logging code for some key components
  - improve deployment error messages
   - simplify plugin and custom assembly creation
*  - improve accessibility*


2008/7/6 Kevan Miller <kevan.miller@gmail.com>:

>
> On Jul 2, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Hernan Cunico <hcunico@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We kinda started to have some discussion some time ago but couldn't find
> any
>
> hit on nabble so not sure were we left it.
>
>
> It's likely because we've been discussing 2.1.2 so far and nobody
> thought about rushing towards 2.2.
>
>
> Thanks Hernan!
>
> Ya. There's been a lot of focus on 2.1.2, lately. Definitely looking
> forward to seeing more energies turning towards 2.2.
>
> First, I'm thinking in terms of a September/October date for Geronimo 2.2.
> How do others feel about that as a target date?
>
> The following are a mix of features that have been discussed previously, by
> me and others, and a few new brainstorming ideas. I've placed in categories,
> to help me think about them...
>
> Java EE 6 features. We don't have an initial spec, yet, and many
> technologies don't have a finalized spec, but I expect we'll be able to
> introduce some EE 6 sneak-previews. (BTW, I'm assuming that 2.2 will be Java
> EE 5 certified. So, some caveats on what features we're able to introduce).
> Candidate features:
>
>   - JSE 6 (as mentioned by Donald)
>   - JAX-WS 2.1 (as mentioned by Donald and Dan)
>   - EJB 3.1 - OpenEJB has been having some 3.1 related discussions. Would
> be great to start rolling out some EJB 3.1 features.
>   - JASPI - I know David Jencks has started looking into this.
>   - JCA 1.6 seems like another potential candidate
>   - Concurrency Utilities: Jarek has done some implementation work for JSR
> 236. Will there be enough to be released?
>   - Others?
>
> Potential new function:
>   - XML-based configuration state (i.e. no more config.ser)
>   - SFSB clustering - Gianny has mentioned this in the past. Would be great
> to see...
>   - scripting/code-by-convention environment - would be cool to see a
> Grails/JRuby on Rails environment integrated with Geronimo
>   - GShell improvements - see http://cwiki.apache.org/GSHELL/goals.html
>
> Usability
>   - revamped logging code for some key components
>   - improve deployment error messages
>   - simplify plugin and custom assembly creation
>
> Performance
>   - would be great to see some new performance analysis and tuning work on
> Geronimo
>   - improved startup times - I'd like to see a dramatic improvement in our
> EE startup time. I think this is an issue where Geronimo is used as a
> development environment.
>
> Documentation
>   - more and better ;-)
>
> --kevan
>
>
>
>

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<div>As mentioned in my last mail, maybe we can do more work on usability -<br><br>Usability</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- revamped logging code for some key components</div><div><div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- improve deployment error messages</div>

</div>
&nbsp; - simplify plugin and custom assembly creation<br><b>&nbsp; - improve accessibility</b><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/6 Kevan Miller &lt;<a href="mailto:kevan.miller@gmail.com">kevan.miller@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div class="Ih2E3d"><br><div><div>On Jul 2, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Hernan Cunico &lt;<a href="mailto:hcunico@gmail.com" target="_blank">hcunico@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">We kinda started to have some discussion some time ago but couldn&#39;t find any<br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hit on nabble so not sure were we left it.<br></blockquote><br>It&#39;s likely because we&#39;ve been discussing 2.1.2 so far and nobody<br>thought about rushing towards 2.2.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div>Thanks Hernan!</div><div><br></div><div>Ya. There&#39;s been a lot of focus on 2.1.2, lately. Definitely looking forward to seeing more energies turning towards 2.2.</div><div><br></div><div>
First, I&#39;m thinking in terms of a September/October date for Geronimo 2.2. How do others feel about that as a target date?</div><div><br></div><div>The following are a mix of features that have been discussed previously, by me and others, and a few new brainstorming ideas. I&#39;ve placed in categories, to help me think about them...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Java EE 6 features. We don&#39;t have an initial spec, yet, and many technologies don&#39;t have a finalized spec, but I expect we&#39;ll be able to introduce some EE 6 sneak-previews. (BTW, I&#39;m assuming that 2.2 will be Java EE 5 certified. So, some caveats on what features we&#39;re able to introduce). Candidate features:</div>
<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- JSE 6 (as mentioned by Donald)</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- JAX-WS 2.1 (as mentioned by Donald and Dan)</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- EJB 3.1 - OpenEJB has been having some 3.1 related discussions. Would be great to start rolling out some EJB 3.1 features.</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- JASPI - I know David Jencks has started looking into this.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- JCA 1.6 seems like another potential candidate</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- Concurrency Utilities: Jarek has done some implementation work for JSR 236. Will there be enough to be released?</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- Others?</div><div><br></div><div>Potential new function:</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- XML-based configuration state (i.e. no more config.ser)</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- SFSB clustering - Gianny has mentioned this in the past. Would be great to see...</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- scripting/code-by-convention environment - would be cool to see a Grails/JRuby on Rails environment integrated with Geronimo</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- GShell improvements - see&nbsp;<a href="http://cwiki.apache.org/GSHELL/goals.html" target="_blank">http://cwiki.apache.org/GSHELL/goals.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Usability</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- revamped logging code for some key components</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- improve deployment error messages</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- simplify plugin and custom assembly creation</div><div><br></div><div>
Performance</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- would be great to see some new performance analysis and tuning work on Geronimo</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- improved startup times - I&#39;d like to see a dramatic improvement in our EE startup time. I think this is an issue where Geronimo is used as a development environment.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Documentation</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;- more and better ;-)</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>--kevan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></div></blockquote></div><br>

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