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From "Joseph Leong" <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] ASF hosted machines for TCK Proposal
Date Tue, 20 May 2008 14:23:42 GMT

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Joe Bohn <> wrote:

> If we are to take this proposal forward to the ASF Infrastructure team,
> they want assurance that the Geronimo PMC is behind the recommendation and
>  supports the intended use of the systems. I think it also bodes well to
> demonstrate that the entire Geronimo community stands behind the proposal,
> particularly since we will administer the machines ourselves,  - so I
> encourage all to vote.
> [ ] +1 I agree with the need and support the proposal. Present it to the
> ASF Infrastructure team.
> [ ] 0 No opinion
> [ ] -1 I don't see the need or disagree with the proposal. Do not present
> this proposal to the ASF Infrastructure team.
> I'll plan on calling this vote on Friday (5/23) morning (9 AM EST).
> Rationale:
> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
> sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are necessary
> gain JavaEE5 certification compliance.  This information is only available
> to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun NDA and other Apache
> committers that have signed an NDA and gained approval of the Apache
> Geronimo PMC.  This has allowed other Apache projects to test new
> products/releases by running JavaEE 5 TCK tests using the Apache Geronimo
> test infrastructure.
> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
> machines by individuals.  As more people become involved with Apache
> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a central
> system to run and share the results of these tests.  A centralized testing
> environment allows the Geronimo community to more fully participate in the
> TCK process. Some committers don't have access to the hardware resources
> needed to run the Java EE TCK tests in a timely manner. Although some ad-hoc
> sharing of private machines has occurred, this is not ideal from a community
> perspective. Community controlled systems allow us to equitably share these
> resources.
> Request:
> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the ASF
> infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used for this
> purpose.  Initially, we would like to request two (2) machines that meet (as
> closely as possible) the specification below.  However, we can see the need
> for 2 additional machines in the not too distant future.
> Machine specs:
> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
> - 16 GB memory
> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
> - DVD R/W (20x?)
> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
>  - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
>     - configuration
>     - backup/recovery
>     - secure access
>        - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with NDAs on
> file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by Geronimo PMC.
>  - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot directions
>  - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA authorization)
> would identified to manage the machines.
> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine.  We
> may increase the number of VM images if it is feasible.
>  - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
>  - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or public IP
> addresses.  Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests, and
> produce reports.
> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
> Admin Volunteers:
>  - Joe Bohn (PMC)
>  - Jay McHugh (PMC)
>  - Jason Warner
>  - Matt Hogstrom (PMC)
>  - Kevan Miller (PMC)

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