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From Kevan Miller <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] ASF hosted machines for TCK Proposal
Date Tue, 20 May 2008 13:07:08 GMT


On May 20, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Joe Bohn <> wrote:

> If we are to take this proposal forward to the ASF Infrastructure  
> team, they want assurance that the Geronimo PMC is behind the  
> recommendation and  supports the intended use of the systems. I  
> think it also bodes well to demonstrate that the entire Geronimo  
> community stands behind the proposal, particularly since we will  
> administer the machines ourselves,  - so I encourage all to vote.
> [ ] +1 I agree with the need and support the proposal. Present it to  
> the ASF Infrastructure team.
> [ ] 0 No opinion
> [ ] -1 I don't see the need or disagree with the proposal. Do not  
> present this proposal to the ASF Infrastructure team.
> I'll plan on calling this vote on Friday (5/23) morning (9 AM EST).
> Rationale:
> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution  
> and sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are  
> necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance.  This information  
> is only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the  
> Sun NDA and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and  
> gained approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC.  This has allowed other  
> Apache projects to test new products/releases by running JavaEE 5  
> TCK tests using the Apache Geronimo test infrastructure.
> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private  
> machines by individuals.  As more people become involved with Apache  
> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a  
> central system to run and share the results of these tests.  A  
> centralized testing environment allows the Geronimo community to  
> more fully participate in the TCK process. Some committers don't  
> have access to the hardware resources needed to run the Java EE TCK  
> tests in a timely manner. Although some ad-hoc sharing of private  
> machines has occurred, this is not ideal from a community  
> perspective. Community controlled systems allow us to equitably  
> share these resources.
> Request:
> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting  
> the ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be  
> used for this purpose.  Initially, we would like to request two (2)  
> machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification  
> below.  However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in  
> the not too distant future.
> Machine specs:
> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
> - 16 GB memory
> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
> - DVD R/W (20x?)
> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
>  - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
>     - configuration
>     - backup/recovery
>     - secure access
>        - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with  
> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved  
> by Geronimo PMC.
>  - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot  
> directions
>  - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA  
> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per  
> machine.  We may increase the number of VM images if it is feasible.
>  - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
>  - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or  
> public IP addresses.  Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests,  
> and produce reports.
> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
> Admin Volunteers:
>  - Joe Bohn (PMC)
>  - Jay McHugh (PMC)
>  - Jason Warner
>  - Matt Hogstrom (PMC)
>  - Kevan Miller (PMC)

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