Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 12179 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 09:30:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 09:30:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 33896 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2008 09:30:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 33844 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2008 09:30:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 33833 invoked by uid 99); 15 Feb 2008 09:30:42 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:30:42 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of shivahr@gmail.com designates 64.233.166.176 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.166.176] (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:30:08 +0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so795089pyi.11 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:30:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2CcCvelGXVQ/EwgqhDU3LCMWKm15oe8OLGH0OPnBDpo=; b=FuxIkjQiFEaMFYjfEG7dkaGfgvDIfnMzhSwz6SeBJM4JDzNxLvIRKA+0bEZvON+9vGdYV0a1Wb1PvqzGGZrU2A5SLip1OnSzOOwd9V2JPCRYXMjasp3Q8gpe+4VfxtWJt4N8Lho1MEOOhDv63Wtd5lv9ERc7I3g4DluxXIo5Z4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r5WX6b3GxrJbZR+KyGStM9LmH9o3e4ZGswegB1DxZf6Vf9cSRd7tdHrwov9ziGLmrhn3XgG8ZPEW9ZgJzf2Frqt2GcPtLOm6SXE1m+3mHBlnUCo7pj7HdxRLhzFt+ToI1pkUdEIhitiGNcacTxuKdH5RPPVNcg00zh/ak7xZ6eE= Received: by 10.65.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr3429750qbj.79.1203067815007; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.81.17 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:30:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5da94e5a0802150130p3f8c6f2eqb61b4528d0fc181d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:00:14 +0530 From: "Shiva Kumar H R" To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Geronimo in year 2008 In-Reply-To: <27450.97517.qm@web57506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4427_11853985.1203067814998" References: <27450.97517.qm@web57506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_4427_11853985.1203067814998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow! Thanks so much YunFeng! for joining. GEP Task https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMODEVTOOLS-278 is created for this. We can use this, as well as IRC chats & dev-list mails, for collaborating! Thanks again, Shiva On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, YunFeng Ma wrote: > I'm interested in "2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP): > a) Model > framework for Geronimo deployment plans" and I'd like > to contribute to > this. Shiva, let's work together for this. :-) > > --YunFeng > > Shiva Kumar H R wrote: > > I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in > reference to this: > > i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to > Geronimo" mail > > from Prasad in Nov'07 > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg53236.html > > ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in > Aug'07 > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg50660.html > > iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?" > mail from Matt in > > Jul'07 > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg48173.html > > > > Alright, here is my wish list - features that I > would love to see > > getting into Geronimo in 2008: > > 1) Deployment Environment: > > a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in > Geronimo Eclipse > > Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many* > other Geronimo > > deployment plans. > > b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further > simplify the > > specification of Geronimo deployment information, > right at development > > time. > > > > 2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP): > > a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment > plans: > > Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework). > With every update to > > Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to > generate new EMF > > classes. If however, GEP uses the same model > framework as that of > > Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at least this > problem would be > > solved. IIUC JSR-88 DConfigBeans would be the ideal > model framework > > for GEP - in that case even if the model framework > of server changes > > in future, GEP would be unaffected. > > b) Critical bug fixes > > c) Make "Download and Install" option more > intuitive > > d) Customize Web Services Wizard: > > The default implementation of WTP's web services > wizard embeds an Axis > > engine inside a web-app and then deploys it in a web > server such as > > Tomcat. However this isn't the right approach for > Geronimo as it > > already has a global web services engine deployed. > Hence web services > > wizard's behavior must be customized when deploying > onto Geronimo. > > e) Better Remote server support > > f) Testsuite Automation > > g) Integrating JavaEE Samples. > > > > 3) Admin Console Tools: > > a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button" > to push that spits > > out a server with just what is needed for a set of > apps and nothing > > else. > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54849.html > > b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of > partial clustering > > solutions. For instance there's WADI, native tomcat > clustering, a > > terracotta integration, and many others. A cluster > admin tool would be > > of great help in the setting-up and fine-tuning of > those clustering > > solutions. > > > > I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past > year or so and it > > is still not complete! So if I alone work on many of > those features, > > God alone knows when I will complete them. Any > takers/collaborators? > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy > > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Geronimo had a great year 2007. I don't need to > re-list all our > > achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec > 2007 > > > (http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html). > > > Now that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is > time we start > > discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in > year 2008. Let us > > also discuss what we "must" do to make Geronimo > an application > > server of choice. I would like all of us to use > this mail thread > > to put forth our thoughts (and any action items > some of us may > > have already come up with silently) so that the > community can see > > what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008. > > > > Thank you. > > > > ++Vamsi > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > Shiva > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------=_Part_4427_11853985.1203067814998 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow! Thanks so much YunFeng! for joining.

GEP Task https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMODEVTOOLS-278 is created for this. We can use this, as well as IRC chats & dev-list mails, for collaborating!

Thanks again,
Shiva

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, YunFeng Ma <yunfeng_ma@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm interested in "2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
 a) Model
framework for Geronimo deployment plans" and I'd like
to contribute to
this. Shiva, let's work together for this. :-)

--YunFeng

Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in
reference to this:
>     i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to
Geronimo" mail
> from Prasad in Nov'07
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg53236.html
>     ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in
Aug'07
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg50660.html
>     iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?"
mail from Matt in
> Jul'07
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg48173.html
>
> Alright, here is my wish list - features that I
would love to see
> getting into Geronimo in 2008:
> 1) Deployment Environment:
>     a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in
Geronimo Eclipse
> Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many*
other Geronimo
> deployment plans.
>     b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further
simplify the
> specification of Geronimo deployment information,
right at development
> time.
>
> 2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
>     a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment
plans:
> Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework).
With every update to
> Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to
generate new EMF
> classes. If however, GEP uses the same model
framework as that of
> Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at least this
problem would be
> solved. IIUC JSR-88 DConfigBeans would be the ideal
model framework
> for GEP - in that case even if the model framework
of server changes
> in future, GEP would be unaffected.
>     b) Critical bug fixes
>     c) Make "Download and Install" option more
intuitive
>     d) Customize Web Services Wizard:
> The default implementation of WTP's web services
wizard embeds an Axis
> engine inside a web-app and then deploys it in a web
server such as
> Tomcat. However this isn't the right approach for
Geronimo as it
> already has a global web services engine deployed.
Hence web services
> wizard's behavior must be customized when deploying
onto Geronimo.
>     e) Better Remote server support
>     f) Testsuite Automation
>     g) Integrating JavaEE Samples.
>
> 3) Admin Console Tools:
>     a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button"
to push that spits
> out a server with just what is needed for a set of
apps and nothing
> else.
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54849.html
>     b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of
partial clustering
> solutions. For instance there's WADI, native tomcat
clustering, a
> terracotta integration, and many others. A cluster
admin tool would be
> of great help in the setting-up and fine-tuning of
those clustering
> solutions.
>
> I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past
year or so and it
> is still not complete! So if I alone work on many of
those features,
> God alone knows when I will complete them. Any
takers/collaborators?
>
> On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy
<c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
> <mailto:c1vamsi1c@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     Geronimo had a great year 2007.  I don't need to
re-list all our
>     achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec
2007
>
(http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html).

>     Now that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is
time we start
>     discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in
year 2008.  Let us
>     also discuss what we "must" do to make Geronimo
an application
>     server of choice.  I would like all of us to use
this mail thread
>     to put forth our thoughts (and any action items
some of us may
>     have already come up with silently) so that the
community can see
>     what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008.
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     ++Vamsi
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Shiva




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