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(drw_web@75.177.164.142 with plain) by smtp114.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 22:45:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 2ExV4wwVM1l0zDh8iEbQobc48cBYfXpQJlk8PeO_.GdcDVwIpV8oGbXtqtc8czNZuON9uXqIkKgS5LBm37lnkrCno8J7I9vJZ5mh5qNcnmTFQGKzOg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47B0D005.7060002@apache.org> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:45:25 -0500 From: Donald Woods User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: [DISCUSS] Create a "Powered by Geronimo" page under Community] X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020507000600040106010300" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020507000600040106010300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-line below. Joe Bohn wrote: > Donald Woods wrote: >> Along the same lines as the other discussion topic on adding a "Ready >> for Geronimo" page under the Community section of our website... >> >> How about we create a "Powered by Geronimo" page that would help >> recognize the projects that provide a Geronimo based bundle (like >> Liferay) and companies that provide applications or servers based on >> Geronimo (like Intalio and IBM.) >> >> A sample can be found on our wiki at - >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxSITE/Powered+by+Geronimo >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> -Donald > > It seems that there is some overlap between the "Ready for Geronimo" > idea and the "Powered by Geronimo" idea. Is the distinction that you > are trying to make between projects that embed Geronimo vs. those that > provide functions (such as plugins) that are installed on top of > Geronimo? Could an entity provide both and get listed in each location > for the same general project? Yes, that was the initial thought... Sort of along the "Eclipse Ready" and "Built on Eclipse" programs - http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php http://www.eclipse.org/artwork/ > > For example, an entity that provides a payroll solution could create a > plugin to install that solution on an existing Geronimo server instance. > They might also create a simple assembly that has the plugin > pre-installed for uses to download as a turn-key solution. Would they > register under the "Ready for", "Powered by" or both? > > Perhaps we could integrate both of these concepts into one idea by > simply calling out a page to list entities that provide some level of > integration with Geronimo (i.e. Geronimo Partners?). They could provide > a one line description of their offering and a link to a page they own > providing more detail on their level of integration (be it by providing > Plugins, embedding a G server, providing support, whatever...). I'm > just thinking out load and not completely sold on this idea of combining > the lists myself ... just trying to eliminate some ambiguity (and > perhaps creating more :-) ). Thoughts? Hmmm - interesting compromise. I was going for the idea of "Geronimo Ready" as a way to help promote/evangelize Geronimo and projects that support it, so maybe a generic "Supports Geronimo" or "Geronimo Partner" logo and page with a quick summary on their offering would suffice for now. > > Joe > > --------------ms020507000600040106010300 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJAzCC AtwwggJFoAMCAQICEGl0fFJRFoUogDNHr2j130gwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDQwMzE5MDgwOFoX DTA4MDQwMjE5MDgwOFowQzEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYRZHdvb2RzQGFwYWNoZS5vcmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAw ggEKAoIBAQDENBaTcon2Q3/v2plog9ympNR5IWM94JDvXhWanc1Qz07/sIerwI99WZ4z0AAV wBelazRFCsXkFCaNDM1sOJ0gx4I+KISb5XoX/omAhYIs+Cwac2hitDraZE2Q7x281nLn4TPR d29GVpUZVKsaDvmvnDAagGTEkOfHBx/yUihzshJn4S6n6vahimEWWXn5Qw4Oj5Muvz8iKGoA MilrHZrfSKvCqT0LhGaFnZhrMvqeCguf0/IlP6YJ2kBmouV3XHFUaiai4PQZ7ahtbW7meKb4 b25QUjIFJHIr0KhJXqoGADRAlBgTaqWBIKbdTmYBsr55aasjp5TU+XAxiqFr1FoTAgMBAAGj LjAsMBwGA1UdEQQVMBOBEWR3b29kc0BhcGFjaGUub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEFBQADgYEAJReGzfwY5+BY6PuXJQLURKni6kBaFi7Z7b+tjn6iTdlZhbSF9YHazHIJ 9J6oaOzfG28JroaAlk9PeAvbC38f2kaU4bWQgm6yp6308ZRyM8V3CHXe6Wm9bXiJeZCRTpix Mvxo+mWG2Jq0vnfjWxt+Fbi0ic1xl3I+1UguMfAfAggwggLcMIICRaADAgECAhBpdHxSURaF KIAzR69o9d9IMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJl ZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTAeFw0wNzA0MDMxOTA4MDhaFw0wODA0MDIxOTA4MDhaMEMxHzAd BgNVBAMTFlRoYXd0ZSBGcmVlbWFpbCBNZW1iZXIxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWR3b29kc0Bh cGFjaGUub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAxDQWk3KJ9kN/79qZ aIPcpqTUeSFjPeCQ714Vmp3NUM9O/7CHq8CPfVmeM9AAFcAXpWs0RQrF5BQmjQzNbDidIMeC PiiEm+V6F/6JgIWCLPgsGnNoYrQ62mRNkO8dvNZy5+Ez0XdvRlaVGVSrGg75r5wwGoBkxJDn xwcf8lIoc7ISZ+Eup+r2oYphFll5+UMODo+TLr8/IihqADIpax2a30irwqk9C4RmhZ2YazL6 ngoLn9PyJT+mCdpAZqLld1xxVGomouD0Ge2obW1u5nim+G9uUFIyBSRyK9CoSV6qBgA0QJQY E2qlgSCm3U5mAbK+eWmrI6eU1PlwMYqha9RaEwIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFkd29v ZHNAYXBhY2hlLm9yZzAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBACUXhs38GOfg WOj7lyUC1ESp4upAWhYu2e2/rY5+ok3ZWYW0hfWB2sxyCfSeqGjs3xtvCa6GgJZPT3gL2wt/ H9pGlOG1kIJusqet9PGUcjPFdwh13ulpvW14iXmQkU6YsTL8aPplhtiatL5341sbfhW4tInN cZdyPtVILjHwHwIIMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYD VQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNl cyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJ KoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAw MFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25z dWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJ c3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1 BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwL B+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZ cmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYy aHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYD VR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODAN BgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82 L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr3 94fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCA2QwggNgAgEBMHYwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBpdHxSURaFKIAz R69o9d9IMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggHDMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZI hvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA4MDIxMTIyNDUyNVowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFJnzOg1qvP1Ba9nQz+3w kkJ9nJpNMFIGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFFMEMwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0G CCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMIGFBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2 MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQu MSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQaXR8UlEW hSiAM0evaPXfSDCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQK ExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29u YWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQaXR8UlEWhSiAM0evaPXfSDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AASCAQCG8w5Xaon4K8dxWi2Jap/0i5QnL/UkXcGut1LAYPZmFCi72JdnFo8Bsme+DYPGWQI7 +EUo4I9fgfIYnAD0/NXlC4HAm2uUiZRezjBlMkmg7313FxovKmVRL7yiszywIpw3hm/iD4LG WsxuSpF9PV2sd83PRSSc/ICbUGO2pFx9VyAZJLMWKWaq+pWEVR+IdcGNTvZWfvpQHv1BsRT8 EnXSctStkWSRNEOIwiQFup2t888Btie175+8UhTVH344NKQPvhrx71msFMbGFhPpLLidBNUn 5/Mfn7xYTTDMKH+acOW1HdhTCISIWBVMzhsubuDtxDwI9CyY+GgU+cKfZ0C1AAAAAAAA --------------ms020507000600040106010300--