Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 27755 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2008 17:59:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Feb 2008 17:59:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 30159 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2008 17:59:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 30105 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2008 17:59:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 30094 invoked by uid 99); 10 Feb 2008 17:59:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:59:49 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of c1vamsi1c@gmail.com designates 72.14.204.235 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.204.235] (HELO qb-out-0506.google.com) (72.14.204.235) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:59:16 +0000 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id d8so7553658qbc.3 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WW53/7aHpPZTZ+BqlJKhk3lHZe5xjvnBmXtwu5Ccjqk=; b=YYpPnOQXHx8iuTyjARydNBgk9oOC59TNLbFxzBXhiFFYY7wtN4EspLMmD2rCs9LVhJbx3ViPFt0GI1GT/Elbai68tCTiMGBdu+3R0Xjipd2ebbXaKdgWi1PswQFhOFOYKZuBqM8wwjRP1yUU4hklUstYi0rv1nhERm9cC89Uj68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dlkFmkiy1oNoQG8vSjAGxUwlnCTkl6ztRE7LD53jaD3Y7bKw9to6K7SDVQ2WG53tetHW0tdfXmBAkBaNtMNUeOoGthSwZpT5Sl1Iu3ZS22F5CfzMhs1ZP5i7DvyMHWaglJRBmx5hIBjjrYRVvrxojn+4nRuEwwkQMBbCLzCZjeQ= Received: by 10.142.127.10 with SMTP id z10mr7956301wfc.216.1202666360932; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.213.12 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:59:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <22d56c4d0802100959nff14fb9r51b3d50c6557b77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:29:20 +0530 From: "Vamsavardhana Reddy" To: dev@geronimo.apache.org, jacek@laskowski.net.pl Subject: Re: Geronimo in year 2008 In-Reply-To: <1b5bfeb50802082232m28a215fqcd244fcfbc80767@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1061_13844626.1202666360929" References: <22d56c4d0802070658m21b95bb1uec328778804a39e8@mail.gmail.com> <1b5bfeb50802082232m28a215fqcd244fcfbc80767@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_1061_13844626.1202666360929 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Feb 9, 2008 12:02 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008 6:58 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote: > > > Geronimo had a great year 2007. I don't need to re-list all our > > achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007 > > (http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html). > Now > > that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is time we start discussing > what we > > want to do in Geronimo in year 2008. Let us also discuss what we "must" > do > > to make Geronimo an application server of choice. I would like all of > us to > > use this mail thread to put forth our thoughts (and any action items > some of > > us may have already come up with silently) so that the community can see > > what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008. > > We certainly need more exposure in the tools area and having a > Geronimo NetBeans plugin is a way to go. Eclipse one's fine, but we > need to bring Geronimo to NetBeans masses and let them know there's > another application server with a name that starts with G which is > worth paying attention to as well. > > Documentation, documentation and no need to say more but documentation > is an absolute must. In most cases, we have an associated JIRA for a new feature or a major bug fix. How about we designate the JIRA as resolved only after the related documentation is in place? Many a time we verify the code before closing the JIRA. It shouldn't be hard adding a wiki page with a small write up on how to use that feature or any work around provided. It can be a detailed document or an entry in an FAQ. This will also help in coming up with comprehensive docs after a release. > > > Jacek > > -- > Jacek Laskowski > http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl > ------=_Part_1061_13844626.1202666360929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Feb 9, 2008 12:02 PM, Jacek Laskowski <jacek@laskowski.net.pl> wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008 6:58 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com> wrote:

> Geronimo had a great year 2007.  I don't need to re-list all our
> achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html).  Now
> that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is time we start discussing what we
> want to do in Geronimo in year 2008.  Let us also discuss what we "must" do
> to make Geronimo an application server of choice.  I would like all of us to
> use this mail thread to put forth our thoughts (and any action items some of
> us may have already come up with silently) so that the community can see
> what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008.

We certainly need more exposure in the tools area and having a
Geronimo NetBeans plugin is a way to go. Eclipse one's fine, but we
need to bring Geronimo to NetBeans masses and let them know there's
another application server with a name that starts with G which is
worth paying attention to as well.

Documentation, documentation and no need to say more but documentation
is an absolute must.
In most cases, we have an associated JIRA for a new feature or a major bug fix.  How about we designate the JIRA as resolved only after the related documentation is in place?  Many a time we verify the code before closing the JIRA.  It shouldn't be hard adding a wiki page with a small write up on how to use that feature or any work around provided.  It can be a detailed document or an entry in an FAQ.  This will also help in coming up with comprehensive docs after a release.
 


Jacek

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Jacek Laskowski
http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl

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